What Broke Me, What Brought Me Back and How to Keep Going When the World’s on Fire (ep. 135)

Kellee Wynne [00:00:01]:
Well, hello. Hello. It's been a hot minute, but I'm back. And I missed you all so much. I love the podcast. That's something that you have to know. I love the process of being able to kinda just show up in your studio or while you're driving and have a conversation. And I feel like I'm in a relationship with you as much as you are with me even though I don't know your name and I don't know who you are, but I imagine you every time that I show up on the podcast hoping that the people I have here and have conversations with, the ideas that I share, hopefully, enough encouragement to keep you going.

Kellee Wynne [00:00:41]:
It's why I'm doing it. I love being able to connect with you this way, but I needed a break. As many of you know, where did we leave off last year? I had some amazing guests on the podcast. I talked to artists. I talked to other people in professional fields. We had a lot of heartfelt conversations, and then I needed to shut down. And there's a lot of reasons why. And now here we are.

Kellee Wynne [00:01:09]:
It's April of twenty twenty five, and that's the longest break I've taken from the podcast, but this is the fourth year. So what's different this time? I'm producing it myself. No intro, no outro, row. Nothing fancy. Mostly because things were really tough last year, and I had to shut down so much. I had to say goodbye to the most amazing help I've ever had in my business. I needed to pretty much just stop doing everything, except for one thing. There was one thing I was still doing throughout all of that, and that was showing up for the people who were in Build It Remarkable and the Remarkable League.

Kellee Wynne [00:01:54]:
That part, I just never tired of, and that's how I knew that was my calling. You know? Even when I had my saddest days, even when I had hiding out days of not being able to show up, and anything else in any other capacity, I was able to show up for you. Those of you who've been there and been through it with me know that it's what lights me up. And so showing up here on the podcast means I get to connect with more of you and work with more of you and help more amazing creative souls follow their big audacious dreams. And that that is the reason why I'm still here. That's the reason I still show up even when everything else feels like shit. Although I have to admit now, we have had our ups and downs and and challenges last year and even spilling into this year, but I'm feeling better. And I'm gonna talk to you heartfelt reasons why and what's changed and what I'm doing now, how I'm moving forward in a very weird scary world that we're living in.

Kellee Wynne [00:03:04]:
And I will tell you the first of that was that I finally finally went and got mental health care. And I can't speak enough about how important this is. And when you think that, oh, it's just life circumstances that have me down, think again. You're not you're not supposed to do it alone. You're not supposed to do it just relying on friends and family. This is where the professionals come in, and they can make a difference to help you get a grip and get a footing and and honestly just help you know that you're going through fairly normal experiences with real feelings and emotions and help you deal with it. So that's what I finally did, but it took me a very long time to finally make the call. And it's been about three months now slowly but surely figuring things out, figuring out why last year was so hard besides just some of the big grief processes I went through with losing my father and my son being sick and in the hospital for a month.

Kellee Wynne [00:04:19]:
My brother was diagnosed with cancer, and I was helping family members and my dad's widow, and that list goes on and on. It was like I was like a deer in the headlights all year last year, just trying to figure out what the next step was, how to keep moving one foot in front of the other. And something else was really, really hard and tragic for me. That is a grief that most people wouldn't even know or think of during all of that that was happening, and that's the loss of my business. And not that it's gone forever, but I had a negative net year. Like, really, only because of the years before that I'd always put money away from my business so that I'd always be on sure ground. I didn't go into debt for my business, but I was at negative when when the accountant showed me that, when I wasn't able to show up for you, when I wasn't able to launch another offer, I wasn't able to show up on social media. I had to shut down the podcast for most of the year.

Kellee Wynne [00:05:29]:
You know this if you've been listening. And if you haven't, if you're new here, thank you for being here. But you can go back and listen to a few of those episodes from last year as I was going through the struggles of navigating being my own boss, running my own business while also in the throes of real life experience. And I don't think that what I went through last year is, quote, unquote, unusual. It is part of life. We lose people. People get sick. We have challenges.

Kellee Wynne [00:06:02]:
We have all the financial burdens that hit us all at once, like air conditioner and a funeral and hospital bills and a car breaking down and, like, it compounds. Yes. But I'm not alone, and I know many of you have struggled with many of the same things. But when you're going through it, you do feel alone even when you have great support around you. And my family stepped up. My husband was amazing. My boys were there to comfort me, my in laws, my mother. It was good in that sense that I felt like I wasn't alone with family, but I wasn't able to fully come out of the deep depression that it caused without psych psychiatric medical help.

Kellee Wynne [00:06:52]:
I will be honest that one of the compounding factors is what's happened with our nation. So I can make it very clear, and I've made it clear on my platforms before, I'm not in support of what's going on. I believe in DEI. I believe in inclusion. I believe in supporting LGBTQ. I also believe in the constitution of The United States and what's happening right now doesn't feel like it's aligned with everything that I've known that The United States has been my whole life. And so yet here we are, and every day I take it bit by bit, you know, Worrying if my husband will lose his job, if my son will lose his job because, you know, we live close to DC, so you do the math. We have a line that we won't cross.

Kellee Wynne [00:07:40]:
Right? Because our belief is in what our founding fathers set forth, which was democracy and freedom for all and the checks and balances. Right? So here we are, and I'm thinking, how do I run a business in these days? How do I show up on social media? How do I talk to you on a podcast? How do I navigate what's happening? And I know I'm not the only one who's thinking this. And yet at the end of the day, I know that I have privilege because I am a white middle class woman in sub in the suburbs, and it's not gonna affect me the same as it might affect other people, but my heart still breaks. And my fears are still there. And my love for our friends all over the world, and I know what kind of a rift this is creating. And how do we keep showing up and selling our art courses through all of this? How do we keep painting through all of this? How do we sell our work when it seems trivial in comparison? And yet I stop and I think, if I'm not showing up for you and you're not showing up for your people, then we lose the deep network of caring, loving, creative people that we have built over the many years, dozen of years for me. And I don't wanna do that because this is what we have left is our connection with each other. So that was one of the main reasons I needed to come back here on the podcast is to be able to keep the connections going and encourage you to do the same because we are called and meant for this.

Kellee Wynne [00:09:28]:
This is our our destiny, if you will, if you believe in that, if you believe in your fates or or just your purpose in general, and you get to make your purpose. You get to decide what that is. But if your heart's been in it all this time, I don't want you to lose that desire or that passion. Because when things get hard and heavy, whether it's personal or it's global, whether it's a pandemic or it's a shift in politics or it's a market crash, who knows, We have to stop and say, this is what we've been building for this whole time, and we turn our backs on it now. What happens on the other side of that? And I'm gonna give you some real examples of why showing up and continuing to do what you do is important and why you have a good chance of still succeeding even when everything seems pretty bleak. Now aside from things that are out of our control, because I do realize that we could end up in much more of a grave situation than we're in now globally and not just in The United States. But let's just assume right now, everything keeps moving forward the way it is, where there's instability economically, there's instability for people, their work. Freedoms might be pushed and pulled, and we've already seen that happening.

Kellee Wynne [00:10:54]:
We are in a situation where travel to The United States is no longer happening on a grand scale. By the way, smart move. Just take a break from us. We'll get our act together one of these days, but keep safe. Economic twists and economic boycotts actually do work. So whatever you have to do to continue, it's the small business though that I'm concerned about. And this is what I understand about economic downturns because I've been thinking about it a lot for many years, not just now, but for many years because we've had roller coasters. We had the two thousand and eight recession that affected the entire world.

Kellee Wynne [00:11:38]:
You know, everything's connected now. We're all connected. There's no way out of being connected. It's not like before the telephone when we'd have to send pigeon messages or whatever. We are in the now where everything is instantaneous. So we are all connected. So when the two thousand and eight crash happened, when we looked at the global pandemic, and now we've been staring down the barrel of another recession and trying to push it off for a long time. And as my kids say, all we've really done since 02/2008 is kick the can down the road.

Kellee Wynne [00:12:10]:
Because the people with the money have the power, and they're still messing around with how the middle class and the working class are living their lives. So I've been studying this because I am a business owner, and I work with business owners. So I have to stop and say, what's gonna happen to the little guy along this path if we have another big recession? I don't know what's gonna happen with the depression, but I have a feeling we can still weather the storm. I'm gonna explain to you now. Have you heard of the term bread and circus? So even back in Roman days, when their democracy got a little out of control, it's kind of crazy watching the parallels, they were having a lot of economic problems too because anytime you have a trade war or depression or more money goes to the top and you have fast rapid inflation, things become incredibly unstable, and their people were struggling too. But the thought of those in charge, quote, unquote, was as long as they have bread and circus, we can keep them pacified to keep going with our debauchery, basically, circus, meaning feed the people their basic needs and give them entertainment. Hence, the coliseum and their barbaric ways of entertaining people. And that philosophy has carried on throughout the ages, but the best I can go back to is give you a couple of examples from the Great Depression.

Kellee Wynne [00:13:46]:
And in the Great Depression, there was the lipstick index. Have any of you heard of the lipstick index? That's because women were still buying little things for themselves, those who had anything left. But many still had their their baseline funds. Right? Not everyone was starving in the great dust bowl. But women might not have been able to do big extravagant things for themselves, but they would still buy a lipstick because it was affordable enough to give them that little extra boost. Another interesting thing that happened during the Great Depression is the film industry boomed because people would still go to the movies. Right? They still needed entertainment. They would still do the thing that they needed to do to comfort themselves through a hard time because they didn't have money for anything extravagant, and that was the exact same thing in 02/2008.

Kellee Wynne [00:14:46]:
Yes. There was a massive crash. There were people who lost their homes, and I find that that whole situation was pretty appalling because we had no no problem bailing out the big banks and the big corporations that were too big to fail, but we didn't really give enough support for the people who were struggling the most. And that was the middle class and the working class because the squeeze came to us. But some interesting things also happened at that time. Online business started to flourish because people needed to make a path for themselves when they could no longer trust that corporations or big business was gonna take care of them. And, also, sales of big screen TVs boomed, the highest they had ever seen. Football, NFL, most watched in all of history by remarkable margins.

Kellee Wynne [00:15:44]:
And why was that? That was because people didn't have money to travel. They were putting on the the addition to their house. They weren't buying new vehicles during that time, but they could treat themselves to the circus. Right? And this was interesting because my husband's a avid tabletop gamer. He is the biggest nerd, and I think it's the coolest thing. He has been playing since he was 14, these little figures that you paint and you play big strategy war games on a tabletop. It's very creative, very social. And this company that he's been buying from since he was a kid called called Games Workshop during the recession grew and made more money.

Kellee Wynne [00:16:30]:
And that just stuck in my mind because he's always paying attention to these things. So he he was telling me how they didn't take a hit. They actually grew. The gaming industry in general grew. Right? And this is before I was teaching art. This was when I was a mom and scrapbooking. I lived in Belgium. I had come home in 02/2010.

Kellee Wynne [00:16:50]:
We were still struggling through trying to get out of the recession. I was starting up with making art. Like, I was in this kind of phase where I was just doing my thing and learning how the whole online world worked, but I wasn't quite there yet with building a business. So it was really cool to hear from his point of view what was happening in that industry. And, honestly, if I was to really analyze it, I think the scrapbooking industry was booming as well during a massive great recession. So what does this tell us? This tells us that the circus needs to be part of our life. And I don't wanna call you a circus necessarily, but if you're an art course creator, if you have a membership, you create summits, you do workshops, this is the thing that people will still turn to in hard times. Right? This is what they need to get through.

Kellee Wynne [00:17:51]:
This is something that people will still do. They will turn to their hobbies. They will turn to creativity. They will turn to community because if they're not traveling and they're not putting on the additions to their house and they're not buying a new car and they're not doing anything fancy, and they're not buying new clothes, mostly because we have massive economic bans, which side note here, I've saved a ton of money by not shopping, by boycotting all my favorite stores, just groceries and gasoline, like, the the basics. And, boy, that tells you you really don't need a lot, do you? And I have spent a little money with some small businesses, but that's it. Right? So where would I spend my money? Where is your customer gonna spend their money? They're gonna they're gonna wanna continue their creativity. They're gonna wanna continue with the art courses. Now strike me if I'm wrong as everything unfolds, if we do have a recession or a great depression or a global war, who knows? I'm not trying to be a fear monger here, but anything is possible.

Kellee Wynne [00:18:59]:
But I will say with an economic downturn or instability, I think that you have a job to do. And you are the one who's meant to be there and show up and create for others and share your art and make the course and make the workshop, make the community for other people so that they have the safe place to go when they're struggling. We need the network of people now more than ever. And I wanna be the voice to encourage you to continue to do that. And have kind of need to separate in my mind what's happening outside of the world, outside of this little Internet bubble we're in, our our community. I need to separate that from what my purpose is, and I want you to be able to do the same. So we're gonna continue to work on this throughout the next I don't know, the whole year. Hopefully, I'll continue to show up because I'm just doing this as raw and authentic as possible, you know? No beginning to this podcast, cutting out all of the little extras, and honestly, I don't think I'm gonna be acting much of this.

Kellee Wynne [00:20:09]:
I think I'm just gonna put it right up on the podcast so you listening on iTunes and Spotify and the whole world can hear me. I'm just showing up because I think it's important more now than ever, and I am feeling better, so I'm capable of doing this. Yes. I have a little bit of a of a resistance to doing the work because I'm a little rusty here, folks. But I know you need to hear hear these words of encouragement that we have each other, that we have community, and that we can support one another. And to not give up on your big audacious dreams. Right? You were made for this. What's the Toni Morrison quote? I'm gonna just try and find it in the rattles of my brain and not look it up, but it's something like, when the world gets hard, the artists are meant to be here.

Kellee Wynne [00:21:02]:
This is our job. This is precisely the time we do the work. That was a terrible paraphrase, but you get my point. We are creative beings, and that's why you're listening to me, and that's why I connect with you at the heart of everything that we do. This is this is our purpose. Right? It's to show our loved ones that creativity can still spill over in hard times. It's to show the people who are struggling and reach down and pull them up with us. That's our job.

Kellee Wynne [00:21:34]:
That's my job. I'm gonna do that for you, and I hope you'll be able to do that for other people. As I've created art courses and now I'm working on coaching and mentorship, I have to bring the experience I've had into the light of what's happening now because there have been so many times where we've seen tragedy after tragedy and unprecedented times after unprecedented times, so much unprecedented just feels precedent now. And every time we have to stop and say, is this right for me still to be showing up talking about my work in the middle of, you know, devastation in Gaza or another massive hurricane that rips through people's homes or, you know, snatching and grabbing and deporting? Yes. The answer is yes. You are supposed to still be showing up because you don't know whose life you're gonna make a difference. It's a ripple effect. We are all just little pebbles in this great huge ocean.

Kellee Wynne [00:22:42]:
I wanna tell you a couple stories of how I know my courses and my programs have made a difference for other people, and forgive me for those of you who are listening and I'm not using your name because I probably forgot, let me tell you this story first. When I was launching the magic of oil pastels, and that was back in 2019, I had been doing a twenty eight day February flowers challenge, and I used oil pastels. And that just led one thing to another until I ended up launching this course, which has been one of my most popular courses. But what I didn't realize is that it was really making a difference in several people's lives. And one person in particular wrote to me after taking the class and saying that she had suffered a very traumatic brain injury to the point of not being able to make art, struggling with her mental health, taking a lot of time to have to get back through therapy, her skills back, and that my course came along just at the right time for her to reinvigorate her art. And in a way that she was able to make art again through this course, brought back back all of her joy. She said prior to that point, she didn't even know if she wanted to go on living. I'm not making this stuff up, but she sent me a photo of the before, what she was capable of doing, and after a couple months later, and how much it healed her, and how much it was just the right thing at the right time, and made all the difference in the world.

Kellee Wynne [00:24:16]:
And I can go on with other stories, specifically things like, people who have had loss, people who have been struggling with their other, with other mental health challenges, diagnosis of cancer. And I'm not the only one. All of the course creators that I work with have stories like that, of how it's made a difference in other people's lives. And so that's why I'm here adamant to tell you, you've got to keep going, even when it's hard. And I know it's hard for many reasons. It's hard because of the outside world. It's hard because you want to justify whether or not you should be doing this. All things considered, it's hard sometimes simply just from how to figure out how to get it going and make money at doing it, especially when you're seeing, like, the writing on the wall that economic hard times are very much likely to happen again, once again.

Kellee Wynne [00:25:14]:
Like, this isn't unusual, but if through the recession we had online businesses flourishing, then my belief is we're still gonna be in a place where we can be building these businesses. But it's gonna take some specific skills and some some determination to make sure that you're building it in in the most sensible way and the most direct way. So a lot of us, we create things, me included, where it becomes convoluted. You've got a little of this, a little of that. No one knows what you're meant for doing if you're for them, if your course will help them or if you're asking them also to buy your print on demand and go to a workshop and go to the art gallery. Like, if you've got all the things going on, it's going to get harder for you, which is why one of my most important principles of business is to do the one thing and do it well until you've got all of the systems dialed in, and it works like clockwork. And until then, don't add on anything new. So that whole idea of seven different streams of income, it's many people are gonna be telling you through an economic hard time that you need to diversify just in case.

Kellee Wynne [00:26:32]:
Well, maybe if you're importing stuff, then yes. I'm really concerned because the cost of everything's gonna go up again. But when you're in a service or creative business, I think it dilutes your brand. And the more you can get focused in on who you serve, how you serve them, how you make the transformation for them, how you're, solving their problem, the better it's gonna be for you in the long run. Get clear on that and keep moving forward with building your email list, showing up online, dialing in your message. And remember that the heart and soul of why you started all of this is the reason you're gonna continue to connect with other people. And my hope for you is that you're gonna flourish and thrive even with things being hard because you, my friends, are the great connection globally that people are gonna be seeking out when things get hard. And they're getting hard.

Kellee Wynne [00:27:37]:
They're always getting hard. When in all honesty, when have they not been hard? Whether it's personal or it's it's outside of ourselves. I hope this message reaches you in a place that you feel it in your heart that you are meant to be doing what you're doing. I really believe that. That's why I called this program, this podcast, everything I do is made remarkable. We are made this way. We don't have to become anything. It's not that you're supposed to change who you are for the public or for society so that you can fit in.

Kellee Wynne [00:28:17]:
And this has been my own struggle, real deep dark struggle in knowing that the things that I felt ashamed of or like a failure for, all of those ups and downs in my life, it's what built me into who I am. And it was me trying to fit into society that caused the friction. But when I learned to accept it and use it as my strength, showing up for my business and creating for other people, that's when I realized I didn't have to become anything. I don't have to be better. I don't have to self improve. I mean, there's always work to be done to to bring more peace into my life and life of others. That's different than changing the fundamental core of my personality or my creativity or my skills or just who I am in general, and I'm gonna say the same thing to you. You were made remarkable.

Kellee Wynne [00:29:16]:
You were given the desire to create. So no matter what your skill level is, it's that that exudes from you that desire to create. That is the lifeblood of the world. If you really think about it, and I've thought about this a lot since I became an artist. We can't be replicated. Right? When everything is automated, when everything is digitized, when everything is AI, which that was an that was a new layer to add into this. The human heart, the human creativity, the human hand can't be replicated in the same way with machines. And so now that means what you do is even more important.

Kellee Wynne [00:30:01]:
So even if you have frustration that AI is taking over or whatever, don't fear it. Lean into who you are because you were made for this. Right? You were made to connect as human to human with other people. Right? To to express your joy, to express your soul, to show up fully as who you are, and to see the light in yourself and see the light in everyone else. That's what namaste means. Right? The light in me sees the light in you. And with that, if you hold that in your heart and in the core of who you are, then it it makes it easier to go down this path that you've chosen. And if you haven't done it yet, if you haven't started the course, if you haven't made the membership, if you haven't made the workshop, if you haven't done the whatever, and you're listening to this with this spark of an idea that you've always wanted to, now is still the time.

Kellee Wynne [00:31:01]:
Now is still the time. Just have to get very clear on it, very clear on what that greater purpose is because we all have it. It's not meant to be just general. Like, I help beginners find their spark. Like, that's nice. That's a result. But who and how? Where's the depth in it? Because when you can get deep, the more you can uncover that, the better your business is gonna be, to be honest, and also the more satisfied you're gonna be. We are meant to work in our zone of genius.

Kellee Wynne [00:31:36]:
Have you heard that term? Gay Hendricks talks about it in the big leap, which I'm sure I've mentioned on this podcast before. The big leap. And the idea is is that we get so comfortable in our zone of competence that we never take the chance into our zone of genius. And there is a place that you're meant to be. And I wanna encourage you all to keep doing it. Nothing is too trivial in what you have been brought in to this world at this time to do. Nothing. Whether you're a crafter, a maker, a baker, a seamstress, showing people how to make fancy drinks on TikTok, whatever.

Kellee Wynne [00:32:21]:
It seems trivial at the time, but the truth is if you're doing it with a level of integrity and soul, then you are doing what is meant to be done to connect with other people and bring light into this world. So I just wanna keep showing up and encouraging you that. I have a long way to go in healing myself and building my business back up because it it's definitely been a rocky road, And I'm not seeing you all on Instagram even though I finally started posting. Thank you, algorithm. Whatever. But I'm still there for the few of you who wanna show up and say hi. Drop in my DMs. It's Kellie Wynne, k e l l e e w y n n e.

Kellee Wynne [00:33:07]:
And I'm there and I respond to everybody and I wanna have a conversation. Come talk to me. Tell me what it sparked in you. Tell me what your fear is and tell me where you wanna see yourself go. And I'd be happy to have a conversation. I have some fun things coming up in the future, so not everything's gonna be doom and gloom. I promise. I am seeing the light through all of this.

Kellee Wynne [00:33:35]:
Right? There is there's a light at the end of the tunnel, maybe a very, very long tunnel. But I'm looking for that light at the end of the tunnel, and I'm working on things that can help and heal and grow and help you really with fundamentals of business, but also doing it from a very purposeful, soul filled way because I do things different. I'm not your Amy Porterfield or Jenna Kutcher or Marie Forleo. They're good people. They're marketers. But they don't help the same level in which I help people create a very soul aligned creative business with courses rather than just make a course. Anything will do. You know that I live on a deeper level, and I understand the artist's mind.

Kellee Wynne [00:34:24]:
I understand the creative mind. And I I understand the challenges that we have, especially when our customer is also ourself. I see it. I know it. I've worked with now over a hundred people to help them build their business, and and many of them you know. We've had them on the podcast. And things are going well, and we're learning and adjusting and pivoting along the way. And I'm taking those tools, and I'm showing up more thoughtfully than ever before in the way I create my business, in the way I am here to talk to you.

Kellee Wynne [00:34:57]:
So, look, I know I've been all over the place. That's who I am. I accept it. I hope you accept it too because I've been here. I've stepped back. I've come up with ideas. I've pulled back on those, and that's okay. Sometimes it takes a while to come back to our true self.

Kellee Wynne [00:35:14]:
And last year was hard, so it was really hard for me to get clear on that. But once I realized that I am all the things. I am a multi passionate, and that's fine. My business needs a solo focus, but I, myself, am a multi passionate. And I love the art, and I love spiritual speak, and I love to be able to connect with people, and I love more than anything mentoring and coaching, and I'm gonna continue to show up to do all those things. So you'll see my creativity blossoming again, which is really exciting. You'll see me also trying to just pull everything into one space where I can exist for all of it. It's the difference between a business focus and a brand playground.

Kellee Wynne [00:35:58]:
Right? There's space for all of that as long as you understand that my primary goal is to help you grow your course business. That's my primary goal. But everything else, I'm here to inspire you to keep making art and to keep connecting with others. So, yeah, I'll be launching Build It Remarkable in the next month or so. I'm kind of shooting for a June launch. I have a mini course that I just put out. It's actually an edit of a live event I did last year. It was so powerful.

Kellee Wynne [00:36:35]:
People walked away with that with a complete transformation from a three day workshop, and I was just amazed by the results. So I created that into a little low ticket offer if you're interested. It's called the big shift. You'll find it on my website, kellywinn.com backslash shift. Easy peasy. And I have a bunch of other little fun free things. I wanna take you behind the scenes as I rebuild Color Crush Creative. I wanna have some whiteboard sessions if you don't know what that is, and when you hear me talking about that, that means I'm just gonna invite any one of you in the audience, any one of my community who is either planning on or has a course business to come to a roundtable and discuss and and have me, like, map out some ideas for you right there then and there.

Kellee Wynne [00:37:26]:
So I should be having a handful of those over the next couple of months. I know keep paying attention because when I announce that, you're gonna wanna snag a seat. This is no charge, just free, because I like to see what's going on in the community. I wanna help you get your first big or your next big unlock when you're stuck. That's what I'm here for. Not everything is behind a paywall, but it is my bread and butter, Build It Remarkable, and I hope that maybe you'll take a chance on yourself this year and take a chance on me. Either which way, I'm here for the podcast. I'm here on Instagram.

Kellee Wynne [00:38:01]:
I'm here on my newsletter. I'll be around. I am gonna really just look to see you all take this heart and soul advice and keep moving forward with your work, with your destiny, with your purpose, whatever it is, with your big audacious dream, and keep building it. We're builders. When everything else feels like it's falling apart, we are builders, and that's what I want for all of you. And I hope that I hear from you either in the DMs or you know what would be even cooler is if you'd help me out and leave a review of the podcast. Nonetheless, either which way, I'm glad to be here, and I hope you're having a beautiful day despite it all. Just keep showing up you, your beautiful self, and your creativity.

Kellee Wynne [00:38:48]:
Okay?