The Importance of Finding Your Voice

Kellee 0:08
You're listening to Unfold with Kellee Wynne this is an unpolished, imperfect and totally honest podcast, and I'm talking to all artists, creatives, visionaries, and changemakers, who want to live a life by design and not by default. If you're ready to have thought provoking eye opening and heart centred conversations, that explore the stories that made us who we are, and break through the boundaries of expectations, then you are in the right place.

Kellee 0:41
Well, hello, hello all my artists, friends and visionaries and changemakers. Are you ready for another episode of Unfold with Kellee Wynne we are on part three of our Q & A series. Every now and then I like to host some lives over on my Instagram. That's Kellee Wynne Studios, of course, anywhere that you search for me, it's always the same. But I like to pop in there and host a little Q & A and answer whatever's on your mind. And I never know where it's going to end up. Sometimes we're just jivin. And really good stuff comes out of it. And that's why I wanted to share it with you on the series that we've been doing here on the podcast, I think you're gonna find today's episode, especially great for what's coming up with the Virtual Art Summit.

Kellee 1:25
The Virtual Art Summit starts May 2nd, it's open to everybody. And we have 16 expert artists lessons that you're going to learn from all focused in on finding your voice. And so this episode of Unfold with Kellee Wynne we dive a lot more into why finding your voice is so important. Because you know if you're if you're making art just for the fun of it, and you have no desire for proficiency, or mastery or to make a profession out of it that ignore this podcast, it's fine, it might not be for you. But for everyone else that really wants to reach that next level. The idea of finding your voice and honing in on your style and really making something that represents yourself and your vision. It becomes an essential part of the entire process. And we're going to dive into that in this episode, we talk about a few other things like you know, whether or not fairs art fairs are worthwhile or even if those crazy wacky abstract expressionists really knew what they were doing.

Kellee 2:26
Here's my little take on it. Just a little hint, no spoilers necessary. But you know what, once you've been an artist long enough, any art that you look at, you realise the pain and suffering that an artist went through to get to that point. So yes, it's all valid, even if we don't like it. However, you get to make your own decisions. Just join me in this podcast. Oh, and if you want to join the Virtual Art Summit, just a virtualartsummit.com/go. And you'll be on the waitlist to make sure you don't miss this epic event happening in just another week. All right, so let's get this party started.

Kellee 3:04
Everyone, took me a little bit to get this set up just right. You know, I wanted to like, prop up all my artwork behind me so that we'd have a pretty backdrop today. How are you doing? Are you joining me for this wild, crazy little after party from the podcast? who's been listening to the podcast? I've been getting a lot of feedback. Most of you like it. I guess if you don't like it, you haven't told me.

Kellee 3:31
But I'm here and I'm ready to discuss it. I want to know what you think I want to know where your pain point is, and listening to why you weren't able to find your voice because that's what the podcast episode was all about. Hello in California. Everyone. I'm so glad that you're joining me. I just think it's a really fun opportunity to join together a couple of days after the podcast comes out so we can talk about it's like, I listen to my favourite podcast and I'm like, I want to know more. I have questions. I'd like to know what other people thought. So right now I'm just playing around with this idea. Just this idea that we get together. And I'm gonna play with different days and times, and maybe even different places. As I experiment as I build the podcast and build the community around the podcast, this idea. Oh, hello from India and Argentina. You guys are amazing. This is a global experience, people global experience. We're all in this together and you guys can talk to each other. Now remember, I will save the podcast so you can rewatch it later for those of you in replay Hi. But all the comments that I'm getting right now won't show up in that replay. So if you meet somebody that you're connecting with today, make sure you reach out and make friends because this is the only way we're going to survive. We have to make friends with each other. It's really one of the biggest differences in my career is making fun with other like minded artists that understand what I'm going through, because it doesn't matter how much I try to, you know, chat with my husband or my kids about my problems, they're just like, oh, boohoo, no. I mean, they're very sweet, very loving and supportive. My boys are amazing. My husband is so proud of me. But they're not artists running a business, so they don't always get it. So that's why I'm saying find your tribe, find your circle of people, find the just find friends online, if that's the best that you can do. Because guess what we become real friends. When we connect like this, I have real friends that I have them later met in person that I met on Instagram. So as much as Instagram can be such a drag to our time. And sometimes even to our self worth, if we're using it right. We're connecting with each other and building lasting relationships.

Kellee 5:52
Sh, I've jumped onto this journey of podcasting. Even though so many people are podcasting. It's just, I had a moment where I knew this was the right thing to do that I needed. I needed to be able to connect with everybody in a different way. And I wanted to share some of my thoughts and ideas. And I just I love listening to podcasts. I've learned so much from podcasts. Sometimes there's people who have these big fancy programmes to join. And yet I get just as much out of their podcasting as I would from any course or offering that they have. And so I knew that if I could offer that to you, as I grow as an artist and an entrepreneur and as a woman and a human navigating through this life, that maybe I can help you too.

Kellee 6:35
And so we went through the first three episodes, the first one was 100 ways to make money as an artist without selling your art. There's a free PDF download, just go to the link in my profile, or go to kelleewynnestudios.com/100 - 100 is the number not spelled out 100, 100 ways. And you can get that free PDF. I sat and thought of 100 different ways that you guys could connect your art into making a business without even selling your art. So it was pretty cool list.

Kellee 7:05
Second episode was everything that you don't need to get started, which we all think for some reason that we need all these fancy things like a degree, or a perfectly branded website or whatever, you don't need any of that stuff. But I tell you the few things that you do need in episode two, and then episode three, is why you're having a hard time finding your voice, your creative voice as an artist. Basically, that was it. And I called you out on your bullshit in that podcast. And actually, I was calling myself out on my bullshit. And that's what's the real truth of it is that, uh, we get stuck so easily. And it's the number one thing that everyone asks is, how do I find my voice, when I ask a poll to artists in general, no matter what level they are, even if they've been painting for a decade, sometimes it's still that same thing, like I'm still struggling to find my voice.

Kellee 7:58
So it's a subject that I'm pretty passionate about. And I might continue exploring this a whole lot over the course of this year. Because I think that it's really important to continue to focus in on the impact we're making with our art, really. And if we're not doing that, and we're not connecting with that, then we're not able to really build an impactful business. So remarkable business, you want to do that. You have to have your voice, you have to know your why, you need to be able to have some confidence in the work that you're doing. And that's not going to happen if you're still futzing around. So if you are, if you're still, as I said, in the podcast, if you're still fucking around, then you're not going to find your voice. If you're still looking for outside source for what's really needs to come from inside source. If you're still looking for validation, if you're still following the latest trend and trying to catch on to what's popular, instead of exploring your magic, your special flair for creating, look, we go through our process where we do need to explore through copying, imitating practising what the teacher says, oe teachers, then we get to a point where it's time to launch off on our own direction. So if you aren't doing that yet, maybe it's time to take a little bit of a risk.

Kellee 9:22
So I want to know if you have any questions about the podcast? Where are you struggling with finding your voice where if you listen to it, what was what was one of the things I talked about that really hit home to you that you were maybe doing that might be holding you back? And I probably should have listened to my episode because I recorded it a couple of weeks ago. And now I'm like, What did I say? What was it that I said? But I think really it's coming down to not trying to do all the things, not looking for outside sources and not spending enough time making art. Those are some of the most important things, so tell me what like sparked for you as like a real aha moment when you listen to the podcast.

Kellee 10:05
Thank you. Helen says I'm painting every day thanks to you, you are my muse. Well, I hope that here I'm going to tell you a little thought I had, is that I don't want to be the muse, I am not the source, I am not the energy of your creativity. I am however, hoping to be the lightning rod, which means that I'm taking whatever that energy is that's out there that's waiting for you, the Muses, and I'm holding on to you, and I'm just conducting it to you does that make sense? Like, that's my hope is that I can just be your lightning rod. So it's not coming from me. It's something that you have always had access to. But if sometimes it's hard to get to. We do use others to channel that excitement and energy. So if I can be your lightning rod, I am happy to do that. But I promise you you have your own muses.

Kellee 10:53
David, let's see, you can just jump off this because you're not here for the right reasons. Okay. I don't know, this is not a dating site, we're not here to look for people to go out with. There's any way that I can just block you right now, you guys, this is not what this is for. We're talking about making art. Can you believe this? Um, I can be the vicious side of making come out when anyone is going to be taken advantage of or manipulated, I am going to be like that tiger mom, and be like, leave my people alone.

Kellee 11:32
And that's why I will always be completely honest and transparent, nothing held back, if you have a question, I'm going to be honest with you about what it takes to be an artist, what it takes to be an entrepreneur, why, you know, and what the pitfalls are of that. And what the challenges are, the reality of it is, is that it's not an easy path. And I'm gonna say that it can be very simple, but it is not easy. It is hard work to be really good at your job. But if you're passionate about it, you're willing to do the hard work. I'm very passionate about, I don't ever stop thinking about my work, because I love it that much. I just eat and eat, sleep and breathe except for that. I do take downtime to spend with my family and I'm working on myself care. Anyhow, I love this. Okay, we had a couple of questions now that we're getting over the fact that we had somebody trying to prey on our people. Focusing on one thing at a time rather than many different ideas at once seems Empire tree studio found that that really resonated with them, I'm going to say she or them, her or them them. We can just use them all the time. And it will never be wrong, right?

Kellee 12:41
Yeah, I think we as creatives want to try all the things. And I literally will like pick up stuff for sewing or cross stitching. And I'm like, What am I doing? that's not leaving me enough time to focus on the other things that I want to develop. So it is essential to cut back on all of the ideas because especially for beginner thinks that if I let go of this idea, I can never have it again. But guess what, someone who has a little more experience will realise that those things just keep coming back and coming back. So sticking with something long enough, and really giving something your full attention is going to help you develop your voice. And it's and it can get exciting to once you get into it deeper and deeper. And then maybe all those other things that you thought you needed to do, don't even need to be done. Or you find a way to incorporate them later or you shift focus completely on to something else. But the point being as as cut off those edges. And I say that in a way that I'm saying you don't have to get you don't have to dump every idea and only focus on one. But I'm saying if your range of ideas of all of your loves and hobbies and things that you'd love to explore are like a huge, you know, spectrum. Let's bring that spectrum in just a little bit, narrow it down enough that things start to have a golden thread through them. That makes sense. And they become more cohesive.

Kellee 14:01
And the example that I had given in the podcast was something like Edgar Degas, he's a famous, you know, impressionist painter. And he would focus in on series at a time. And now his voice was very clear, you could recognise no matter what he was painting, it became very clear who what he was. But for example, for years he spent just studying the dancer. And I remember going to this exhibit in Philadelphia in 2003. Like, I'm like remembering all these experiences. The time I've spent inside in front of famous art exhibits famous art masters has made a real big impression on me as an artist. And so I highly recommend you get out and see art, but this exhibit showed an entire range of work that he had worked on to develop this idea of the dancer. And so he was exploring it through sketches and pastel drawings, and then he'd work on pay meanings, and some of them were rough. And then they developed more. Some of them were behind the scenes of the dancers warming up. Some of them were on stage where you actually could see the orchestra or the the crowd, looking at the dancers. And then where did he go with it, his famous bronze sculptures of the dancer. So when you develop something deep enough, you can start seeing more and more possibilities with that whole subject that has doesn't mean you're limited by by materials, that doesn't mean that you're limited by how you're going to express it, express it. It's about seeing the thread that runs through it, so that there's a cohesiveness so that you can go deeper with the ideas.

Kellee 15:38
If any of you have been following me long enough, I did the arches. In fact, I have an entire art course on will eventually rerelease it, probably this fall, called Timeless art, and I did arches and windows and doors. And had I stuck with longer, I had dozens and dozens more ideas that I would have loved to develop, and yet I moved away from it too quickly. But when you can go deeper into a subject, you can really explore its potential in a different way. '

Kellee 16:06
And so I'm gonna say it's not that you can't try all the things, but eventually, if you really want to find your voice, you're gonna have to let go of some stuff so that you don't come into your studio and say, What the hell am I going to do today? You know, because your decision making has already happened. I know for this period of time, I'm going to focus on florals, any which way the floral show up abstract drawing, charcoal pastel, and then you can just go with the theme, the subject, how does that subject keep manifesting itself? You might say, I want to know everything there is about oil painting. So now you've got your material as your subject, how can I manipulate oil painting, in all of its forms, I can pay anything out of the sky? landscapes, people, florals, still life, I'm focusing on oil and your brushstrokes and your colour palette are gonna tie it all together. Am I making sense? Like, there's ways that we don't have to give up everything, but there's some sort of continuity between what we're doing and where we're going. That makes sense that there's a thread of it.

Kellee 17:09
I have another question here. Art Beyond circles? How can we eliminate by ourselves and not wait for outside opinion? Ooh, do a brain dump? do a brain dump, take inventory of everything in your life, not just what's in your studio, take inventory of all the things that light you up? What is most important to you? What makes you excited? What do you, what kinds of TV shows do you like to listen to? What do you do for fun? What are your childhood memories? Like? If you do this kind of a brain dump? You're gonna be able to start seeing that golden thread also. And then you do the art at the same time? Like, what were the works of art that I loved the most that I've made over the last couple of years, which colours did I love? Which materials did I love? You know, and then you start connecting them all. And you're gonna start seeing your why and your story, and including the work of works of art that you're saving on Instagram, or Pinterest. We all have, and we have our hoards of saved ideas of other people's but what is it that's connecting all these things together?

Kellee 18:11
I am in development right now of a programme. It'll either be a workshop, a one day workshop, or it'll be a whole course I'm not exactly sure because I'm letting things Unfold on helping you with this decision making. And not from a I'm a beginner artists, what should I do next? But I've been painting and I really want to go deeper. And I want to be able to make a career out of this. And I want to be able to express myself wholly and fully. I want to be able to show up like a powerhouse with my work and be confident about it. And I need to know more about me, my why my purpose, and how I make my art. And that's something that I'm absolutely fascinated in being able to teach. And so if you're interested in that, you know, drop me a DM and tell me whether that's something that like sparks your interest.

Kellee 18:59
Do I have a process for looking inwards when you look at what you've made? Ooh, hmm. In a lot of cases, I've, if you've been following along, I've been pretty stuck over the last couple of years of painting for myself. So a lot of my painting has been for teaching, for sharing the process in live videos. And so I haven't been as in touch with myself as I would like to be. But I have been on a journey this year working on it, making more art without the camera on. But as far as that introspection, a lot of times I just work and then I take pictures as I go and especially if I'm finished I take a picture and then I walk away and I don't think about it for a while, so that at night before I'm going to bed or first thing in the morning I might open up my camera. I know. I know I need more boundaries. So it's not in my bedroom with me and the last thing I'm doing is surfing my phone, but that's another story. But I'll get up and I'll have a couple coffee in the morning, for example, and look at the pictures, I don't actually even go into the studio to look at it, I will look at those pictures. Because I'm becoming detached from the actual piece, I'm looking at it in a 2d form, I can see how it makes me feel, I can recall the process because I've taken pictures along the way. And then I can see any mistakes or, or corrections that I'd like to make on it.

Kellee 20:25
But as far as understanding myself better, one thing that I've heard that you should do, and I haven't done but I am very fascinated by, is a lot more art journaling through the process. And I'm planning on exploring that, but I just haven't had the time to do it yet. So I would say do a brain dump journaling, like just automatic writing? Where what are my thoughts? And just don't worry about, you know, if and you can even burn the books when you're done. But it's the idea of like processing through your thoughts and emotions. Does anyone do that? Journaling on their artwork? I'd love to know.

Kellee 20:57
Hi, from the UK. Awesome. Balance Life is beautiful. Thank you, I'm looking to see how do you know which way to go? I seem to be exploring so many different types of art mediums, and I enjoy them all. This is a very, very good question. From snazzy creations by Anne. It's sometimes really hard to decide which way to go when we have so many different loves. And I would say that we if all you want is to make and create for your pure joy and not to have some, not to have a profession out of it, not to master anything, you're not worried about that. If this is just your hobby and your outlet, you don't need to limit yourself to anything.

Kellee 21:42
So when I talk about finding your voice, when I talk about finding your style, and making artwork that commands attention, I'm talking to the person who really wants to master their art, they really want to make a profession out of their art. If you aren't in desire of either of those two things mastery or profession, then make whatever the hell you want. There are no there are no rules or limits. And I know that there are artists who create all kinds of stuff. And they're still successful, but it does make it hard. For many reasons.

Kellee 22:13
Let me tell you why it's hard. If you don't have a direction or a voice. You don't know who you're marketing to, you don't know who you're talking to, you don't know who the ideal customer is. Because one day you have an oil painting, still life that would appeal to one person and the next day you've made a weaving. And neither of them are co cohesive together. So it makes it really challenging to know who you're talking to, it makes it really hard for you to focus your attention on anything long enough to master it, it makes it really hard to to put together something that's for sale or to make an offer. If you wanted to find a gallery. Galleries want a clear direction and voice coming from their artists. So there's a lot of reasons why having clear direction and cutting off all the extras and focusing in a little bit is important. But not everybody has to do that. And so if you're creating for your own personal therapy, if it's just your outlet, if it's just something you do for fun, and you have no interest in making a profession, or mastering, mastering anything, then you don't have to worry about it, you don't have to cut anything out. But for those of you who need to make a decision a little bit more quickly, just start letting go of the things that aren't your absolute favourite thing to do. Put them aside for a time and you might come back to them later, trust in the creative, creative process and in the Muse is that nothing is gone forever. And you might circle around in a couple of years to something that you would loved to before and pick it up again. So it's that wisdom that might help you say okay, for this period of time, whether it's three months or three years, I'm going to focus in on mastering this one, one encompassing idea. Remember, I'm talking about, you know, a golden thread of ideas rather than everything and rather than it being so specific that I am only going to paint tea cups in oil paint. And that's it. So if you want to do that, by all means you can but you don't have to be that limited. That would be like something people do for 100 Day project. But the idea is is to narrow in and focus a little bit and yeah, now I have to let something go if you want to find your voice that's just there's no there's no way around it but you can always circle back again.

Kellee 24:25
Diane wants to know how often My voice has changed. You are going to love next week's podcast because I talk about all the pitfalls and how many times I've changed what I'm making based off of answering an outside source specifically; calls for gallery shows, what local artists are painting or what I see online. I would say I've changed a lot over the last 10 years but it's more solidified probably in the last see 2019 is when I started stumbling on a new way of creating florals and landscapes and it's still evolving. But that's when I start feeling like I was coming into my own. So Oh, two and a half years, I've kind of been progressing towards something that's more authentically me. But yeah, it's changed a lot. And you can expect your voice to change along the way, your style will change and evolve. It's just that it was changing and evolving every month, then you're still in an exploration phase. So you might want to pull it back in just a little bit more. So that you can create for yourself.

Kellee 25:35
Snazzy Creations by Anne says I really would like to find my voice mainly just for myself. But I get so distracted by all the beautiful art supplies. Yeah, I just got rid of 12 boxes, boxes of supplies most unused. So what happens when we buy too much stuff, and especially if we save it for that special time is that 10 - 10 years will go by and you will have never used it. So yes, it's tempting to buy more art supplies and try new things. But eventually, you have to get to a point that says I know which tools I will always pick up over and over and over again. No matter what I'm making, I always, I might try something. But I always revert back to specific materials that I love the most. And when you can identify which ones you turn to over and over again, you might be ready to give your boxes of stuff away as well, so that you have fewer decisions to make every time that you come into the studio. And sometimes you just have to box it up and put it to the side for several months to see if you miss it. I just realised that it was time for me to let go of a lot of my supplies so that I would just use the ones that I knew for sure that I loved. I love acrylic paints. I love graphite. I love mark making tools. I love my oil pastels. I love paper and collage. I sometimes like watercolour still, I did not need all the little fancy glittery things though the pearlescent and the I had all kinds of more crafty things, which maybe that's your jam, and that's what you want. But I knew that that wasn't the direction I wanted to go. And so I turned to some of my supplies that I loved the most. And I stopped buying and start using what I have. It's a hard thing to have to do. Because art supplies are like designer handbags for the artists, isn't it?

Kellee 27:28
Perry Anne Burns, What are your thoughts on painting from a real life? I'm assuming you meant real life versus photos versus imagination. It really just it depends on what your purpose is. No wrong answer. If you love the idea of being out in nature and painting in the moment, in plain air easel up oil paints out, it's really hard to do it with acrylic paint because they dry so fast. But oil paints out, pastels out whatever and you're painting actually out there in nature painting real life. I know a lot of people, that's all they do is in plain air. I spent many years using photographs. I didn't want to play paint what I saw, literally. So when you're painting in real life, you are painting what you see and interpreting it in that moment. I like being removed from it. So I'm not doing everything so literal. So I used photographs for a long time to inspire my landscapes. So I would still manipulate the photographs so that they would kind of look the way I wanted them to look. But you guys, now I work more mostly from imagination. So there is no wrong answer at all. Whatever method works for you, is completely fine. It's what, what works for you, what makes it your method, your personal expression. That's all that matters. There's there's no right or wrong way to make art. If you're making your art and letting your voice shine period. You know, there are sometimes better art over other art and it's not like the style that you've picked. It's just have you mastered colour composition and design. That's really that's really what it comes down to. But I can't say that hyper realism is better than impressionism because that's not true. It's all in the eye of the beholder. That plain air painting is better than abstract painting. No, it doesn't come down to what's better. It comes down to what you love and what you enjoy. So do whatever works for you. You can use a projector, I literally don't care and you shouldn't care either.

Kellee 29:36
You can literally take photographs of things that you love, use a projector, projected onto the big canvas, draw it all out and then paint it and nobody gives a fuck, seriously people do it your way. I'm giving you permission. These old school ideas that they have to be, I have to know how to draw. I have to know how to sketch that out myself. I have to be able to see with my eyes I can't rely I on a photograph, I have to all do it from intuition. I can only do it outside. These are all ridiculous things that external society tells us that we need to be able to do to be a proper professional artists. And you know, that it's not true. It's not what makes you an artist is that you make art period. That's it. If I can get out one idea in your head, is that what makes you an artist is that you make art period. I hope that helps. Do it your way. I've given you permission, but you didn't need my permission in the first place.

Kellee 30:34
Um, I think I have one more question. So thank you, everybody. I kind of went on my rant, I probably should just end there. Oh, my gosh, thank you. Our Art Gals. said my podcast is great. I listened to all of them. Thank you for your authenticity. Thank you so much Art With Courage. I'm exploring the limited palette idea black white plus two or three colours. Yes. To stop my buying more paint. Yeah, I love a limited palette. I love limited supplies, doesn't mean you can't have more than that. But when you go to sit down and make work if you limit yourself, you have fewer choices to make, which means that you have to just rely on yourself more to make decisions rather than being overwhelmed by your choices.

Kellee 31:22
Oh, here's an interesting question. Do I find it easier to be creative standing at an easel versus sitting at a drawing table? I never even really thought about one. One,I don't use an easel. I like putting everything up on my wall. So I'll either pin it to my wall or hang it on my wall to paint. But it just depends on the size I'm working on. So nothing's really right or wrong. I do love a flat surface. But it's really, I don't know, depends on my mood. Depends on what my purpose is. I find it easiest to be creative. When I don't overthink, there you go. Well, I'm not overthinking it. And I just do and it becomes more automatic.

Kellee 32:03
What other questions you guys are missing so many of these. So I'm sorry, if I've missed it. Oh, is there a colour that you find yourself gravitating to the most? Or in certain moods? Would love to hear about that. Just curious, that is a fun question. We all have our own personal colour palette, whether you realise it or not, I used to be I used to like a lot of teal and cool colours. And I would say probably for the last three years, it's just more and more more and more, sometimes I'll throw in some cool colours. But the majority of what you're looking at in my feed, you can see pinks and oranges and reds and go with it. You don't have to do what other people tell you. So if all you want to do is paint pink and green than pink, pink and green, if that lights your heart up and you've mastered how that expression is going to work for you do it. But for me, I play around and then I discover new colours all the time. But they're always leaning towards warm.

Kellee 32:57
I will say that I'm a doer. But recognise we also live our lives. So have a life outside the studio. Very good, very important. If you're stuck, one of the best things you can do is go do something else. Because if you're not getting out, which has been one of my biggest problems is I'm in the house all the time. And I never want to leave because there's a stupid pandemic out there. But if we don't go out, go into nature, go see art, go spend time with friends talking about bigger ideas. It's really hard to find our creative juice.

Kellee 33:24
Do you ever get an emperor has no clothes vibe, when looking at gallery paintings that honestly look awful? Yes. Again, if it can be subjective, because I say it's awful, and yet they sell for hundreds of 1000s of dollars. And maybe that's just because they bought into this hype. I don't know. But it's okay to not like something and to think it's awful. I will say though with time and experience, what I used to think was bad art, that famous, even famous artists, internationally famous, maybe even passed away since now. And they're in the halls of fame. They're in the national galleries, I used to think oh, that's just a big block of colour. Now I can look at it and see it completely different. I think time making art and studying art will change your perspective on what you might say is my you know, my, my five year old could have done that. That's not the truth. There's actually a book about that, that will kind of give you a perspective why your five year old couldn't have done it is the name of the book. But it is definitely okay to not like it but what you could do that would benefit you is especially if you can see it in person because it's so different than seeing it in a book or online is see what mastery was involved in order for that artists to make the work. And then you can still make the decision, you don't like it or care for it but you can at least learn and appreciate what went in to developing that voice in that style. So does that makes sense? because there's plenty of art that I don't care for, but I am at least trying to look at it objectively enough to learn from it. But yeah, please, if you don't like art, you don't like it, no one has to like everything.

Kellee 35:20
Please share the podcast with everyone. If all you do is just send it in a direct message to somebody you think will enjoy it. Tell your friends, tell your art friends, post it on your feed, post it in your stories, send it in an email, however you want to do it, share the word because if I can get this to grow, we can start a whole movement right? You'll all unfold with me. All right, thank you so much for everything. I can't believe I just rambled and rambled. Thank you for giving me a place to talk. I love you all. Have a wonderful weekend and go make some art. Bye.

Kellee 35:42
Hey, hey, thanks so much for making it to the end of this episode and listening to my three part series my Q & A from Instagram. If you've enjoyed this podcast, please do me a favour, pop on over to Instagram say hi to me. That's Kellee Wynne Studios that's k e l l e e w y n n e studios. And tell me what you thought, maybe share it with your friends. Send it in the message to one of your best artsy friends. And let's get this thing spreading around the globe. And if you tagged me in one of your posts, I'll reshare it in my stories that would make me so happy. Hey, and also, I thought maybe we'd get together again this week. So Wednesday, the 27th April 27 at 10am. I'd love for you to pop on over to Instagram, when I'm going to go live so that we can have another little chat. See what you think about all the things we just talked about and maybe open up more conversation. I love it when we can do that because that's how we build community. All right, have a fabulous day y'all and I'll see you next time on the podcast.

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