Kellee Wynne [00:00:01]:
Well, hello. Hello. I'm coming to you from sunny California. I am just getting over COVID. It's been quite an adventure. I don't know what to say. For those of you tuning in for the very first time, I'm Kelly Wynne. This is the Made Remarkable podcast.
It's all about remarkable people doing remarkable things. It's our creativity, our expression, our art, and our business. And if you know me by now, you know my business is about helping those of you with educator, businesses like courses, memberships. I also teach art. I'm also an artist making art. So I've lived it, breathed it. This has been my life for more than a decade now. I've been coaching.
This is my fifth year. I have had the most amazing people come through my programs. I have both Build It Remarkable and the Remarkable League. And today, we're gonna be talking with the twenty twenty five Remarkable League group. These women are just gonna wow. It's gonna open up your heart and mind when you listen to this podcast today. It was something else for me. It was almost, I would say, the spark that lit me into a whole new space being with these women over the last few months.
They've been in the remarkable weeks since February, and they've changed me. You're gonna hear in this podcast episode how and why, but something huge has shifted. In fact, I've mentioned it in my newsletter and a little bit on social media that I'm finding all the pieces of me and putting it back together again to be whole, to not just be one thing or be compartmentalized or to exclude parts of myself like I've done. I have been shunning my artist side for the last couple of years. I've not really fully embraced the things that I've taught, which is be more of you. Be, allowing yourself to let all parts of yourself shine. And I've hidden from that myself. But now I know it's time for a big shift.
As I've said on this podcast, I'm gonna share with you behind the scenes. And one of the big things that's changing for me is I'm bringing everything back under the Kelly Wen banner, which means no more color crush creative, no more separation of who I am. Art courses, art course business coaching, art making, my art, my travel, my experiences, my thoughts, whatever is all just in one place. I'm working towards building that out now over the next couple of months. I have some really cool projects I'm working on, which also means I'm shifting some of the things that I'm doing for my business. Build It Remarkable is the heart and soul of everything that I do. But instead of starting right away, I'm actually putting it off a couple more months, which is you know, it's okay to do. And in past, Kelly would have been like, oh, no.
No one's gonna take me seriously. But you'll see why as things unfold over the next couple of months. But for those of you who are on the wait list, I have a very special offer for you, a little extended version of Build It Remarkable. We might not be starting the regular curriculum until September, but I have a very special experience behind the scenes for those who are on the wait list and who choose to join me early. It'll all be revealed, but it'll only be revealed to those who are on the wait list, an offer that you just can't refuse. So if you've been thinking about joining me, if you've been listening to the podcast and all the amazing people who've come through my programs and found success and found themselves, then now is the time to really dive into what you've been meant to do all along. So go to kellywynn.com/wait. Get yourself on the wait list because I'm going to be sharing some really cool things for those on the wait list.
I just know that my program makes a difference in artists' lives, and you're gonna see that. You're gonna hear it. You're gonna feel it. You're gonna want to embrace it like me as you listen to this podcast episode. So I'm gonna just turn it over to this experience, and I want you to just fall into it and enjoy it. Thank you so much, and I'll talk to you again next week.

Kellee Wynne [00:05:22]:
Hi. So I have the new league 2025 in with me, but all of you who are here with me have been through the regular Build It Remarkable either 2023 or 2024, and now we're in this really amazing space. I kinda feel like it's serendipity that we all came together because we have this amazing energy that we bring in our small little group with Tish, Tanya, Amy, Margie, and Susan. So, I think the best thing is is to do a quick, if you don't mind, a quick introduction of each of you, and then we're gonna have, like, round table chats where we're just, like, chiming in and having a good conversation. So I would love for you to start with introducing yourself, maybe just a brief history of where you come from, what you've and what got you here, and really what you're known for, what you're working at, putting out into this world right now, this year, 2025. So I'll just start with Tish.

Tish Reed [00:06:32]:
Okay. Sounds good. So what am I known for? I'd say I am mostly known for really playful florals and landscapes, And, I think that style really translates to the way that I love to teach also. I really love to show people that it's really through play that they can experience their own, like, creative, voice at a deeper level. Because when we give ourselves permission to play and to be free and express ourselves, like that's where the really juicy stuff comes in creatively. So a lot of the courses and things that I'm developing are along those lines where I'm not really necessarily saying, like, how can you paint this thing that's exactly like mine, but rather, how can you create this piece that's exactly like you?

Kellee Wynne [00:07:26]:
Yeah. And so you started off with painting, and I know selling in galleries and in big shows.

Tish Reed [00:07:33]:
Yeah. So when I when we first met yeah. When we first met, I, was really thrilled with making, I think I made, like, $25,000 that year, which honestly was amazing because I got two kids in high school at private school, and so I wanted to be able to pay tuition. And so that was really very helpful for me to bring to the family. But I felt like I had more to offer, and I didn't really know, like, what else I could do because I felt like, okay. I'm in local galleries. I'm selling at local art fairs. I have an online site.

Tish Reed [00:08:11]:
Like, what else can I do? Like, what was possible? So it was really in seeing, like, some of your, you know, just conversations flying around and knowing some folks that you were working with. And I was like, okay. Something I'm missing something big here. And, so yeah. So over the last couple years just working with you, I've been developing all sorts of new things and really reprioritizing different projects in my life. So, I'm this is a big secret I'll let out here, but I'm really hoping to leave the gallery at some point. So, hopefully, they're not listening. Yeah.

Tish Reed [00:08:46]:
But, you know, it's just one of those things that I it just takes up a lot of time for my life that I'm not really netting a lot out of it. And, so I'm just hoping to to replace that with creating some courses and things that are really gonna fill my cup creatively and build community and, create some extra revenue Yeah. For myself too. So, yeah, I'm just super excited to see what happens as I begin to launch my online courses. And my creative hub is called Create to Breathe because I really feel like it's for me, it's always been that sort of, like, sacred space of being able to take a full breath, feel most like myself, and most importantly, dive into the process of painting and not really focus so much on, like, the product of it, but just allow that process to really speak to me spiritually, help me kinda ground myself into who I am and who I wanna be. And then I it's from that space that I can really create something that seems much more authentic to me. So I wanna create this sort of online community that really mirrors that for folks that are coming in, where they can feel like they can be their authentic selves and they can express themselves and learn some techniques and put some tools in their pocket where, they can really begin to paint and experience creating in this way where it's not about perfection. It's not about mastering a technique. It's about really just learning how to express yourself more fully and giving yourself permission to do that.

Kellee Wynne [00:10:26]:
Right. Becoming more you every step of the way.

Tish Reed [00:10:30]:
Yeah. Absolutely.

Kellee Wynne [00:10:31]:
And I know you have teaching experience because when we met, you'd been doing workshops and

Tish Reed [00:10:36]:
Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [00:10:37]:
There was a lot of, like, experience behind the desire driving you, but it's a new thing bringing it online, and it's been really fun. We will is. Been a little bit about some of your wild, cool, new projects that are are coming out. But Okay.

Tish Reed [00:10:51]:
Sounds good.

Kellee Wynne [00:10:52]:
Tanya now, and let's talk about I'm I have a feeling a lot of people know you for gelly printing or gel printing. What's the PC word to use for it? But I love watching the turns you've taken over the last several months. So introduce yourself.

Tania Ahmed, [00:11:12]:
Hi, everyone. My name is Tania Ahmed, and I'm originally from Pakistan. And I live in The UK, hence my colorful accent. I am a serial gel printer, and I art journal, and I do mixed media. My thing is demystifying the process to make it more accessible. And I'm all about, sharing the the the reality behind what actually goes on. So if I make mistakes in my video lessons, I include them. I don't edit them out because I wanna showcase to people that perfection is overrated and everything well, not everything, but most things that are shared on social media is just merely a highlight reel and that we should embrace imperfection within our art, within ourselves.

Tania Ahmed, [00:12:09]:
And the direction I'm taking, I think, it's it's very exciting, actually. Yes. Because I was I was challenged by our tiger mom, Kelly, to she she really put me through, like, in the best in the best way. Like, you you put yourself, like, into, like, a existential crisis. It's like, what sets you apart?

Kellee Wynne [00:12:34]:
Yeah. And then you see the key. Right?

Tania Ahmed, [00:12:38]:
Yeah. That is that is the key. And, I just became more it's definitely after joining the league, I've just been, like, feeling a lot more comfortable about expressing, myself and encouraging others to put more of themselves into their art. I mean, gel printing is amazing. It's amazing. It's so therapeutic. You could just do it for hours and hours. But my thing is now is how can you infuse your own story into your gel printing.

Tania Ahmed, [00:13:14]:
I know. So which is what I am, working on. My course is coming out soon. It's called story printer, and I'm very, very excited about that. I mean, I'm just getting I'm getting goosebumps.

Kellee Wynne [00:13:28]:
It happened by accident too because you discovered that people were very interested once you took your daughter's onesie and printed it on the gel plate. And from that, it just kind of unraveled. Like, they wanted more, and you've started developing this idea that we can actually infuse, like you said, infuse ourselves and our story into gelli printing. You know what I mean? Like, we think of it as just a way to make collage fodder, but the truth of the matter is is it's an art form in and of itself.  

Tania Ahmed, [00:14:00]:
I mean, I I was in the, Build It Remarkable, the first, version of Build It Remarkable in 2023. Mhmm. And, at that time, I did launch a course, and I made sure to launch that course while I was doing Build It Remarkable so that I could get feedback from Kelly. And I was very disappointed with the sales, in the beginning, and Kelly just said keep going. Keep promoting. Keep going. Keep going. And then, I had, one of my daughter's really old onesies.

Tania Ahmed, [00:14:39]:
It's it was just stained and beyond, donating. It had a hole in it. I I just couldn't do anything. I couldn't even keep it. I have so many of nice things of hers, and it was just like this beige thing, which I she she was most comfortable in, but it was just worn to death. And I just thought to myself, what would this look like as a gel print? So I did that, and I shared it on social media. And that's one of my most, viewed, gel prints on Instagram. And on Facebook, that has, last time I checked over 2,400,000 views.

Tania Ahmed, [00:15:20]:
And it's it's insane. And it was it just it was something that struck a chord in a lot of people, about how they could incorporate more of themselves into their gel printing. I mean, gel printing is gorgeous. I mean, you can use so many different textures, but how could we rewire our brains so that we're taking inspiration from things that we grew up with. Like, I use a lot of pink in my work. I use a lot of patterns in my work. I just thought to myself, why do I do that? And for me, it's extremely important because I was born and raised in Pakistan, and I am intensely proud of my heritage and my background. But I'm also extremely proud to be British. So how can I I thought to myself, how can I marry those two worlds together? Because every little piece of my past makes me who I am right now. And for me, it's all about accepting myself in the now so that I can progress on to more things. So it was definitely about thinking really, really thinking about why do I choose certain things and just making it more meaningful. And I realized I subconsciously do that anyway, but now it's coming more towards the forefront if that

Kellee Wynne [00:17:07]:
Right. Now you're embracing it all, making it what your signature course is about. And that first course, you did hang on. And if I recall, because you've been on the podcast before, didn't you end up with, like, 70 or 80 people signing up that first time?

Tania Ahmed, [00:17:24]:
Yes. That was that was my very, very first big course that I did. It I ended up with about 75, which for me was huge. Yeah. Huge.

Kellee Wynne [00:17:35]:
That's when the light bulb goes off and it's like, oh, this can really work. Right?

Tania Ahmed, [00:17:40]:
Yeah. Yeah. It was it was it was incredibly validating because I've I've been on many, many different summits before, and I just needed that extra, just loving kick. Yes. So you know what time you

Susan [00:17:57]:
need to

Kellee Wynne [00:17:57]:
do it all of love. Alright. So I'm gonna move on and let Susan introduce herself, also from The UK.

Susan [00:18:07]:
Also from The UK. Yes. So my name is Susan, and I've just realized I've been teaching for twenty years this year. So Wow. So my background is that I'm a fine art printmaker. So I began my career in this teaching evening classes. So I taught that for good ten years, building experience, understanding how people learn, and sharing my knowledge of printmaking. And I published my first book, my I self published my first book in 2011 called Learning Linocut.

Susan [00:18:34]:
So for the first sort of ten, twelve, fifteen years of my art career teaching, I've been known for printmaking. I've written maybe three printmaking books, over the years. But more recently, I've taken a step back from printmaking, which is for two reasons. Number one, my hands don't like it, which is to do with, Carving is hard

Kellee Wynne [00:18:58]:
and if

Susan [00:18:58]:
you Carving is hard work. Linocut in particular is hard on the hands, and there's arthritis in my family. So my hands decided they didn't like it. And, also, I'd kind of stepped into a place where I was a bit done with it. And just because it's what I did at university and it's what I'm known for, it wasn't lighting up my soul and my life. And kinda got to a point where I wasn't really making any art anymore. I was really sort of fed up. I had my daughter, and I was at home, maternity leave, just kind of being around the house, which I've never been in a sort of very different place.

Susan [00:19:33]:
And I was like, you know what? I just need to get back into art. And so at that point, I started my thirty day sketchbook challenge, and I basically put it out on my social media. I'm gonna start sketching every day for thirty days in a row, January 1. Who wants to join me? And from there, my annual thirty day sketchbook challenge kind of began, and it's grown from there into this big annual event. I think I'm on year nine. I've done 10 of them because I did an extra one in lockdown. And kind of my love of sketching and drawing and just getting back to those foundational skills of just sketching for the pure joy of it to ignite your creativity, to take time for yourself has just been sort of growing and growing and snowballing over the last five years, and five years ago. And I planned to do this before lockdown.

Susan [00:20:21]:
I launched my Inspire membership, which is exactly five years this month. So I've been running my Sketchy membership for five years, and I kind of wanted a place to bring people into after they've done the challenge because I'd meet people every year for thirty days, and we sketch a different prompt every day. And it's this beautiful, inspired kind of month of sketching, and then everyone would go. I wouldn't see them for another eleven months. It was like, oh, god.

Kellee Wynne [00:20:48]:
This was purely for you because you wanted to stay in their joy and their glory. Yeah. Yeah. At all. I feel too. It's Yeah.

Susan [00:20:56]:
And I was like, what do

Kellee Wynne [00:20:57]:
I tell the people that you've connected with?

Susan [00:21:01]:
I didn't wanna lose them. Oh, no. And there were such beautiful people that would come back every year. And I was like, do you know what? I need some way to take this, like, wave of creativity, this kind of momentum, this habit that's been built, and then bring it into a more sustainable, monthly way because you can't I mean, I can't maintain sketching every day in the same way that I run the challenge. It's intense. It's fun. It's daily new prompts. But to bring something into a more sustainable practice is what Inspire does.

Susan [00:21:34]:
I have a monthly theme instead of a daily prompt. And so I've been running the membership for five years now and, really enjoying bringing creativity and sketching to people who really need it, who need time out to relax, to just kind of get back to basic foundational sketching, looking, observing, and just enjoying it, just sketching the things around you, sketching the things that excite you. So I don't do teaching where I get people to copy me or sketch like me or paint like me. It's very much, what are you interested in? How can I tease this out of you? And how can I inspire you with new ideas? And, we come together on Zoom once a month. It's it's beautiful and fun.

Kellee Wynne [00:22:21]:
I think one of the things that's kinda cool about it too is it's not like sketching to become a professional or so that you can make, like, some fine art masterpiece. It's like Yeah. Just a way to express yourself, which is so important.

Susan [00:22:35]:
Yeah. It's absolutely that. It's just for the pure fun and joy of it. It's to relax. It's to unwind. I've got so many people, some of the stories that have been shared with me over the years of people who have had very difficult times or had health issues or things that have come up in their life where they're struggling, and they've come to sketchbook challenges or the membership or things that I've run to kind of reset, to just have their bit of wellness and time for themselves or give them a focus to get through a really difficult time. And I hadn't realized how powerful art and creativity can be for that and that it might just be a little bit of pencil drawing. Like, it doesn't sound much, but, actually, it's so important in Right.

Susan [00:23:19]:
Our wellness, our health, in in connecting with ourselves and learning how to express ourselves. I mean, I had one of my members' husbands email me to say, my wife is a different person now. She's so confident. And, like, I mean, she's amazing. And I was like, oh my goodness. My little pencil drawing classes. It's it's it does so much more than what you think it does, which has been one of the wonderful realizations over the years for me.

Kellee Wynne [00:23:48]:
Yeah. I'm kind of excited too for a little shift you're doing. It's not a major shift as far as you're still continuing to do drawing, but you're bringing a little more, I don't know, nature and soul into it. Right?

Susan [00:24:02]:
Yeah. Absolutely. Because one thing I've done over the years is sort of compartmentalize the different facets of who I am. So I'm a trained yoga teacher as well. I'm also a nutty plant lady, and I'm doing a horticulture course. And I love all things green and and landscapes and plants. I've got plants everywhere. And so what I'm doing is bringing those elements into, hopefully, a a very beautiful, exciting new offering because I do run sketching retreats, but I'm bringing it to an online retreat so it's accessible for more people.

Susan [00:24:34]:
So it's called inspired by nature, and, essentially, the methodology will bring together a mindful approach to sketching. Nature will be our subject matter, so the green stuff, getting outdoors, looking at the the, you know, the simple forms and shapes and, you know, just simple printing leaves and things like that. Just really simple, easy, fun, playful activities and some guided relaxations and things. So bringing together just a a breather.

Kellee Wynne [00:25:00]:
Which is open and available now. We'll definitely be linking all of you. Everything that you guys talk about will be linking up, but inspired by nature is happening early June, so you do not wanna miss this chance.

Susan [00:25:13]:
It's gonna be amazing. I'm I'm so lucky. I'm so excited for it. I'm really I feel as excited as I did the first time I run the sketchbook challenge. It's like, it's new. It's exciting, and it's bringing more of my real passions together with sketching.

Kellee Wynne [00:25:27]:
I love it.

Kellee Wynne [00:25:29]:
Margie with a g like margarita. Thank you. Hi.

Margie Woods [00:25:37]:
Hi.

Margie Woods [00:25:39]:
I'm Margie Woods, and I have been teaching for eighteen years. You made me think about it. I started what I do in person eighteen years ago after I finished grad school, which is basically teaching women how to use art for self care and healing. And, I am a complex trauma survivor, lots of trauma in my childhood and in my life. And I realized after I went through grad school that art was my lifeline and and my way that I kept myself, connected with myself and regulated. And so instead of going on and finishing my training as a therapist, I took my own art practice, which is now over thirty plus years, and translated it into a workshop. So, now I'm translating what I was teaching in person to onto online, which is how I found you, Kelly. Yes.

Margie Woods [00:26:35]:
And it's a new frontier for me for sure, and it's been a really wonderful learning curve. Actually, I really enjoyed it. And so I'm working on some offerings, and, I do one on one sessions with people. And, I have some group coaching coming up online, and I'm hoping to do some in person retreats and workshops as well coming up soon.

Kellee Wynne [00:26:59]:
I think it's a beautiful way to heal and nurture yourself the way that you present it and it's playful. Yeah. It's not Yeah.

Margie Woods [00:27:08]:
Not all serious. You know?

Kellee Wynne [00:27:09]:
What I love is that you are playful with this business right now. I've seen you just be completely joyful in the fact that you're creating for Instagram. You're you're doing these things, and and you're you're lit up. It's not a drudgery for you. It's not it's like a whole new playground for you, and it's been really fun to see that part come alive too.

Margie Woods [00:27:30]:
It is funny. You know what? It feels like when I'm making videos and doing stuff for my Instagram and for my YouTube channel, I feel like I'm painting. It's like another avenue of creativity and Oh.In myself. And I think that's why it feels joyful because I do actually really enjoy it. It's so much fun.

Kellee Wynne [00:27:50]:
Yeah. For sure. I love it. And also the fact that you are doing all of this in the middle of a move and Yeah. And everything. So good on you. Yeah. Okay.

Kellee Wynne [00:28:02]:
And our last introduction is Amy, and I'm really grateful you're here too.

Amy K Murray [00:28:11]:
Yes. I am here. I, oh my goodness. There's so many places. But I knew my kudos to Kelly is I knew last year that I missed something as I watched friends go through the league previously, and I just was watching them and watching them. And it that whole just watching caused me to consider and think about what I wanted to do with my business and the path I was on with my business. So, like, like many others in here, I have taught forever. I was always a school teacher, though, like elementary, middles, high school.

Amy K Murray, [00:28:57]:
And I would randomly have parents or, you know, moms be like, hey. I see you always have this little sketchbook or this journal. So in 2020, during the lockdown and everything, I realized that, women like me needed art. They needed the outlet. And so I kind of went on this blind adventure and started, a couple of memberships and did a bunch of things. And, like, that's when Sugar Hill Art Studio started. And then this last year, we just took another route, another turn again.

Kellee Wynne [00:29:33]:
Big big one. Maybe.

Amy K Murray [00:29:37]:
I mean, I can really spin if you want me to because it's a complete three sixty. But it's it feels so good, and I know it's right, and I'm super excited. I know my calling is to help other women. My community that seems to be calling to me is, like, the middle age where you're starting to feel, you know, I'm a Gen Xer, and there are just so many of us that have high schoolers or they're leaving, so we have the empty nest. We have parents to take care of. There's just so much. Well, ma'am. We're we're learning that you're kinda like, wait.

Amy K Murray [00:30:12]:
Who am I? What am I? What do I love to do? I'm missing where's my where's that childlike play? Where's that creative soul? And so it's just enabling my cell. Well, I'm able to kind of step out and be that whimsical, joy filled, layered, just in journal. Like, I've always worked in mixed media and journals and all the things, and so that's we're just kinda bringing it all together and making it

Kellee Wynne [00:30:41]:
I'm kinda curious. Where would you say you were before with Sugar Hill Studio? You had a membership. I know that you had some health issues and shut it all down, which is I did. Brave in all honesty. You spent this year being a school teacher again, but now you're free of that, which means whole heart in with this new direction. What would you say, like, was the biggest shift besides I mean, let's it can't just be the health or the money. Like, there's a big shift in you from who you were last year when I met you. You know?

Amy K Murray, [00:31:19]:
Yeah. I wonder if, like, that magic number where you really hit 50 and you like, suddenly you're allowed to say, I don't care anymore. I don't give a big Newton about anything. Take me or leave me. Like, it's good. And I think that was my, moment to be able to say, hey. Just do what you've wanted to do instead of what you think you should do or what you think the art world needs because they don't need that. They need what I actually have.

Kellee Wynne [00:31:53]:
1000%. They need you. And, honestly, I I really believe each one of you as I listen to you are creating the thing that you've needed the most for yourself.

Tania Ahmed, [00:32:03]:
100%.

Kellee Wynne [00:32:04]:
You think? And and that's when what we create is gonna touch people and be more value like, I don't know the right word for it, but it's like, it'll make a bigger impact. You know? When we're more ourselves, when we lean into our gifts, when we create the thing that we are really passionate about and ignore, what's gonna make the most money, or how will people think of me, or what am I supposed to do? Like, when you let that go and you start leaning more into the thing that lights you up, I always see more success like Tanya with printing memories and history and self And with Margie digging deeper into the humanity of of why we need to create for ourselves and Susan beautifully switching into a place that I know feels a little, like, iffy because it's like, can I really put myself out there as somebody who's, like, as you called yourself a nutty plant lady, but I think of as this really beautiful energy that you exude? And the fact that you've, like, been hesitant to put it out there. I'm like, these these people who are your customers are gonna love seeing more of it. And Tish, who is like, you're making these beautiful cards. You're creating this space, this energy where people can come in and feel the energy of play and joy in their creating and not have it be about following the perfect formula. I mean, like, that's the key to building a business that we love and we wanna show up for. And I've been sorely missing that, and you'll hear more about that as I go on because I'm coming back to me. I'm coming back to making art.

Kellee Wynne [00:33:47]:
I'm coming back to infusing the different parts of myself, which is when I've taught everyone else, and I have not given myself that gift. So I would have to say that being in your presence is my biggest gift. Like you've said, like, you create the space for your members because you love to to be able to see what they're creating. But for me, I mean, it's fully healing, and then I realize that I can be more of all the different facets of myself and bring it together again and not have to separate out business, Kelly, from art, Kelly, from, you know, emotionally struggling, Kelly, from joyful and exuberant traveling around the world, Kelly. I'm finally finding this place to fit it together, and I would have to say even though that's been how I teach my philosophy, I haven't embodied it, but watching you watching you do that and allow that for yourself, I mean, that's why we create this space. You know? I mean, it's been fully healing for me. So I'm getting more out of this than you guys.

Susan [00:34:54]:
I think you're right. I completely agree because I think stepping into myself as me as a human that has certain interests and likes and problems and being more me is what has really sort of helped with being authentic in what I'm teaching and shaping something that I really believe in, and I've seen help. And when I sort of talk about the things I'm interested in and how it can genuinely help and I see it happening for my community, you just kind of realize how that's what I should be doing, not just, well, I should be doing this course because Right. They say you should do this course, and you do it in this way. And I think there was a stage I went through. It's like, oh, you should do this, and you should do that. And I think one of the huge realizations I made through doing made it, build it remarkable with you last year was just stripping away the should do's and all the things and letting go of the the little things here and where all my time was split across a million things. And just going back to the one thing that I really enjoyed doing from the start, which was teaching sketching and just coming up with all the naughty ideas for sketchbooks and being me and playing with our sketchbooks.

Susan [00:36:05]:
And I'm let's play and draw cactuses because it's fun, and I love it. And Yeah. Being me and, like, being like, don't worry about the end result. Let's just be mindful. Breathe, breathe, breathe. I was doing that, but I wasn't saying I was doing that. And just being more genuine has been a real revelation, and, definitely, that happened through Build It Remarkable a 100% last year.

Kellee Wynne [00:36:28]:
And I love I wanna brag on you just a little bit because you're Oh, no. The English me is going, oh, no. Can I help you? I know. Come on. Americans love it. Let's be loud and brag a little bit. But you did make a decision to make all roads lead to Inspire, which is your membership. You do have a separate business, which is amazing.

Kellee Wynne [00:36:52]:
I'm so impressed by that. But focusing on this Inspire as a membership, your tenth, I guess, sketchbook challenge of January Yeah. You went all in on it

Susan [00:37:06]:
Mhmm.

Kellee Wynne [00:37:07]:
And doubled your revenue. Yeah.

Susan [00:37:10]:
And I also have a 50% increase in my membership as well. Like And it's the thing I love. I just let go of all the other stuff and did the thing I love the most.

Kellee Wynne [00:37:21]:
I mean I mean, who would have thought except for that I know? Because Yeah. I mean, in all honesty, that is exactly how it's designed is to just hone in on the thing that is most makes you you and and not have to I mean, it's so hard when you think I've gotta do YouTube and I've gotta do TikTok and I've gotta do Instagram and I've gotta do substack and I've gotta do this and I've gotta there's no gotta. You just pick your path and go all in and let a lot of things go. And then next thing you know, it's like it's, you know, it's an amazing thing that happens. The business actually starts growing itself. You become the magnet. That's my whole goal is that you become the magnet for the thing that you're building. Alright.

Kellee Wynne [00:38:07]:
I want to dive into a couple of questions. What's one thing you used to believe about business that now you have completely flipped on its head, since being part of the builders community? You go. Margie.

Margie Woods [00:38:27]:
Okay. So this is embarrassing to admit, but I'm gonna

Margie Woods [00:38:33]:
I believed that if you just do what you're passionate about and put it out there, you know, like, you just you you make your business I mean, I'm I can, like, get stuff done. Like, I'm gonna make the business plan. I'm gonna do the thing. I'm gonna just advertise my class, whatever. I had this belief that if I just do that, then people are just gonna, like, show up. You know? I don't know. It's not like I wasn't putting effort in. I'm not saying that.

Margie Woods [00:38:59]:
But I just thought, well, just naturally, like, it's just gonna start flowing. Well, what I have learned is that is absolutely not true, especially when you're, like, putting it out into the digital sphere. And I changed my attitude around that, and social media really helped me with that. And I worked very hard every single day for the last year, And I have grown, you know, my social media and my newsletter, and it's it's happening now because I am putting effort exactly into that. So I don't know if I'm making any sense. That was a hard thing for me because I just thought, oh, well, if I just do this, they're gonna, like, appreciate it or not. And you know?

Kellee Wynne [00:39:42]:
I mean not gonna work. You can't just field of dreams this. You can't just build it and expect them to come. Literally, it does not work that way. You have to market it. You have to share it. And not market in the e icky way, but more like just make the connection and make the ask just like you said. But you've also grown since just a few months.

Kellee Wynne [00:40:04]:
You've grown to over 2,000 on your email list. You've been, you know, filling up your I mean, your Instagram's exploding, but you are making very intentional and joyful experience out of it. I think if you hated doing it, people would feel it. But the fact that you love what you're doing and you're excited to connect with them, I think they know that.

Margie Woods [00:40:28]:
I hope so because I am.

Kellee Wynne [00:40:29]:
You know? And it's Tish. You have an idea.

Tish Reed [00:40:33]:
Yeah. I was just kind of pissing off of what you were saying, Margie. It's it's the word selling. Right? Like, that really was, like, a hard stop for me when I first started, taking your classes because I thought, gosh. I'm not a salesperson. My sister is a wonderful salesperson. She could sell you anything. I am just not that person.

Tish Reed [00:40:55]:
I do not have that skill. I'm I'm, like, kinda like Susan where I wanna crawl under the table if you ask me to, like, self promote. You know? And, but one of the things that you taught us that I found really compelling was that there is that we're providing a service, that it's not just us, hey. I'm trying to sell you this thing you don't need, but rather I'm providing you with some some tools or whatever it is for that thing that you're craving that you can't find anywhere else. You know, this unique, service or class or course or community or whatever it is, we all have certain unique offerings. But it's in coming with that and feeling really confident and, you know, that that I am so passionate about the thing that I'm offering that it's no problem for me to talk about it. Right? Because I love it so much, and I know the impact that painting in this way has helped to create, not only, like, just personal healing, but I feel like ways that all the things that I accomplish on the canvas, like, translate over into my life as well. And I just really wanna help women through that space and allow them to experience, excuse me, that sort of creative freedom as well. And so for me, it's like, well, now it's a natural thing to talk about. I'm not, like, selling something. I'm just sharing something I'm really excited about.

Kellee Wynne [00:42:18]:
For sure. Because here's an example of shut up and take my money. Last week, I saw these beautiful this beautiful necklace set, brand new that Vintage Fable. And I'm sorry I can't remember her first name, but her account is called Vintage Fable. And she created this beautiful jewelry. And I was like, immediately, shut up and take my money. Right? Another thing happened today. I saw Colleen Attra was has in person workshops.

Kellee Wynne [00:42:47]:
I don't know if you guys know who she is. And I'm like, shut up and take my money. Thank you for making it available for me. Right? Like, I need the space. I need the I need beauty in my life handmade made by somebody else. I don't wanna have to buy it off of Amazon anymore. I need community. I need a place to connect.

Kellee Wynne [00:43:06]:
I need it more now than ever because I've been denying myself it for so many years. You know, I know. The art teacher doesn't go and do art. So I'm giving my spell self that space. So once that clicks in your head, how many times have you had that opportunity to just say, oh, I'm so glad this was created. I needed this. And then you stop and you think that's how your people feel too. Just like Susan had said earlier, when a husband writes and says my wife is a different person, it's like, that's why we keep doing what we're doing, and then it doesn't feel so icky or gross to sell.

Kellee Wynne [00:43:40]:
At least I hope. It's still always one of those things you put yourself out there and you're like, well, I fail. Well, they say no, but then you have to just believe and keep going even if it's just one person that you're gonna make a difference with. Right? So does anyone else have Tanya has, what she thought before and what she thinks now.

Tania Ahmed, [00:44:06]:
Well, this this was, like, a a thing that you're you're a big proponent of is that hustle culture is a one way street to burnout. Mhmm. So for for me, this was it it was a struggle for me because I'm always used to going from zero to a hundred, but now I have a daughter who's three years old. I can't do that. So when I do do that and juggle with trying to be, like, a present mother to my daughter, then I burn out. I get sick. And and definitely being part of the league has been, like, you know, embracing what capacity I'm at, embracing the season I'm in right now. And, like, we were we were talking about in one of the other sessions.

Tania Ahmed, [00:45:03]:
Like, I was so excited about, you know, wanting to start YouTube, but then I realized after the whole talk was that I just don't have the time for it right now, and that's okay. And that's okay. I can just simply focus on the the things that are working for me in the time that I have right now in the space that I am in right now. And and that's completely alright. And be because all all the coaches are like, you know, you must be on all the platforms. You must be posting, like, four times a day. Okay. And

Kellee Wynne [00:45:44]:
Well, that's when you've been.

Tania Ahmed, [00:45:48]:
Yeah. Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [00:45:49]:
And If you guys know who he is, then you'd understand the joke, but we are not. We're not we don't need pro marketing culture, boss babe culture. We're artists. We can do things differently. Yeah. Yep.

Kellee Wynne [00:46:02]:
Absolutely. I mean, I

Margie Woods [00:46:04]:
know.

Kellee Wynne [00:46:04]:
I thousand percent agree. Is there anything that Amy or Susan feel like they thought before that they feel differently, Susan?

Susan [00:46:14]:
I think for me, it was about I felt like I had to do it all myself. And that if I didn't succeed alone, I'd failed, and I wasn't any good at business, and I wasn't any good at running courses or doing this, that, and the other. And I think the thing that I've sort of learned with time and finding communities, like Build It Remarkable, the league, and and other things that I've done and other people I've connected with, each time that I've talked about what I'm doing, where I've had a sounding board with other artists, business owners, friend not always friends, but friends that have businesses, people that are in the same industry or have different experiences or or a stage ahead of me. Every time I've shared or sought coaching, sought a mentor, joined a community, it's not a sign of failure, which is in my brain what it always was.

Susan [00:47:08]:
It's not. It takes it to another level, and it you know, sometimes it's as simple as a problem shared. You know, you can talk things through and just someone else can sense check you or reflect back to you or just tell you to do the thing you're good at or don't do that. What you're thinking, Susan? Or you're talking yourself out of this. So for me, it's just been about finding communities where I've connected with other amazing people, made brilliant friends, but also it's not a failure to ask for help or, you know, share your problems with other people. And, you know, we're all not perfect humans. We all have things we're brilliant at, but we also have things that we're not so great at. So to be able to seek help for those things you're not great at or seek advice on a problem that's really sort of tripped you up or held you back or become a stumbling point in your your business or your growth or whatever it might be, that's been that's been a real eye opener over the last few years is finding just communities of other amazing people that are just great.

Kellee Wynne [00:48:15]:
Well, we have an amazing one within, the builders community. But I'll say I've needed it because I I'm, like, a silo in my own head of trying to make decisions and figure out what to do next. And so then when you're around people who are the same in spirit, which we are, I and I attract those kinds of people into my program. It's been really amazing to me to see, like, the kind of I mean, just good hearted kind people. When you are around like spirited people, you're gonna get the right feedback instead of what, like, you know, you're gonna watch a a marketing video on YouTube. It's not gonna give you the same kind of answers. Right?

Susan [00:49:00]:
No. Absolutely. Sometimes you just don't know what you don't know as well. Like Yeah. If you're moving from teaching in person to teaching online or you're shifting, like, you don't know what steps to make sometimes because you've never done it before. And if someone's done it before, I can share advice or like, it just makes the whole process easier. And I think also another thing, I thought you have to work really hard to be successful. And, actually, sometimes, the best success has been when I've chosen the easy path or the fun path or the right path. And I, sometimes, I might, but that was fun. I'm like, what?

Kellee Wynne [00:49:38]:
That's gonna be a realization. Right? Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [00:49:40]:
I mean, there's always gonna be work, but if you can make it more fun, you can make it more who you are for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Amy, do you have any before and after, like, what you might have thought before and how you feel now or what you're seeing now?

Amy K Murray [00:49:54]:
Well, I've I mean, proof in the pudding because, like, before it was go go go go, do all the things all the time. And, you know, like we talked about a little bit earlier, I put myself in the ER and in the Mhmm. Hospital for a little bit. And, between that and just taking a different route, I learned that you actually accomplish more through finding that, place of rest and joy. Allowing myself twenty minutes or an hour and twenty minutes of nothing is actually more beneficial than me sitting at my computer thinking that this is when I have to write that blog post or do this. Because if I take that rest moment and I'm only focusing on the one thing that I'm focusing on, actually happens much quicker than trying to do all the things.

Kellee Wynne [00:50:49]:
Right.

Amy K Murray [00:50:49]:
So I think that's, like, pretty much what everybody summed up. But

Kellee Wynne [00:50:52]:
I mean, yeah, in a lot of ways, but that is a beautiful way of saying it. Like, giving your self permission to rest and to be and to be. Because when the ideas come, the creativity flows, the connections happen. It is something that has taken me a long time to learn and literally only in the last month, I think. I've spoken it. I can conceptualize it, but to actually embody it

Amy K Murray [00:51:18]:
I was gonna say you actually have to practice it, and that was the part I was missing too. Like, here, I'm teaching you. Do this. Do this. Oh, wait a minute. Let let me try it.

Kellee Wynne [00:51:28]:
Yeah. Exactly. There's a lot of that happening for me right now. Like, what I've taught isn't what I've done. I've been the the cobblers, kids have no shoes kind of person. Like, I can teach other people, but I can't do it for myself. But I am really, like like I said, this group has really helped me shift a lot of my beliefs even, and I see what's possible with aligned energy and not frenetic energy. You know? So I have another question.

Kellee Wynne [00:51:57]:
I think that would be very interesting is who are you becoming through your business? Because I I believe that in some ways, creating a business might be one of the biggest stretches we'll put ourselves through, for our self growth, our personal self growth. There are other big life challenges, but I really, after experiencing a lot of different things in life, will say my business has definitely pushed me to self growth more than anything. And I and I am becoming a different person because of it. And I'd love to hear your thoughts on that. Like, do you feel like it's changing you? Who are you becoming now? Tish

Tish Reed [00:52:43]:
Yeah. So this is very timely because I just turned 48, yesterday, and I feel like so many things are aligning in my life where I'm finally figuring out who I am and what my voice is. And that's all making me feel so much more confident about sharing it with other people. And I think originally when I was looking at, like, you know, how do I start a business, You know, you start to look at other people and how are they doing it or, folks who are coaching you to be like they are. Right? You know? And I think the thing that you kept reinforcing was, like, just find your own voice. And as if you lean into that and you share your story, people will fall in love with you. You know? They will everybody kinda has somebody that you resonate with.

Tish Reed [00:53:37]:
And even though even as we are all sharing our stories, we all have very similar passions that overlap in certain ways. But there's gonna be certain folks that really just resonate with you personally. And so I find for me, like, I'm just feeling more and more comfortable, and I'm giving myself more and more permission just to just to be me. Don't try and think of, like, well, what is so and so doing, or how how are is this person doing it? Like, just how what feels best to me, and how do I wanna present that? And then just feeling completely confident in who I am and what I'm doing and what I have to offer, and, it's all really fun. Like, I love learning so many new things. I feel like there's there's a lot more to learn, but I'm just getting started. I was I got this little vision in my head when everybody was talking. Like, I feel like I'm like a rubber band that's being pulled back.

Tish Reed [00:54:33]:
You know? And it's, like, ready to launch, but I'm, like, I'm, like, at that point of, like, excited tension where I'm like, no. I don't care how. Like, there's just so many good things ahead creatively. I feel like everything's sort of like a reinforcing circle for me right now where I get these creative ideas on things I wanna teach, which gets me excited to, like, play and experiment in the studio, which drives new things creatively that, you know, like, I'm building and then, like, I'm like, okay. Now how can I show that? So it all kind of knits together perfectly. And I just feel like, you know, we're we're all kind of in that same age bracket, but I feel like we're all just sort of just starting to scratch the surface of becoming our best selves. And in a lot of ways, we're giving other women that are in our communities permission to do the same, and so it just feels really good.

Kellee Wynne [00:55:28]:
I know. It's funny because I did a survey last the last couple weeks, and everyone's like, what's holding you back? And the and the people who haven't done it yet almost always said confidence, which kinda surprised me. I thought, I don't know how to grow on Instagram was gonna be the answer, but I I think back to that time. And what's really not even ironic, but really apparent to me is once you start doing it, the confidence comes. You can't build the confidence and then do it. Because so many of you have done this program. And on the other side, as things are growing and things are moving, I see this level of confidence in women that weren't they you didn't have before.

Kellee Wynne [00:56:10]:
I I am gonna attribute that to what what are you creating out of, like, nothing? It's just your creativity, your imagination, your dreams, your desires, your want to connect with other people. And out of nothing, this whole beautiful business is is coming to light. And I think that that's I mean, it's unbelievable if you really think about it.

Kellee Wynne [00:56:34]:
Yeah. Anyone else wanna chime in on, like, where you were and and, like, who you're becoming now? Like, what is the business bringing you to, Margie?

Margie Woods [00:56:47]:
Well, I think what it's doing for me now is, reminding me what I've always known and allowing what I've always known inside myself to become more solidified and kind of it's like I'm receiving proof back that this thing that I've always known is actually true. And it goes along with what you said, confidence, you know, to have the confidence to trust that. And for me, what that is is the importance of sharing And for me, what that is is the importance of sharing my story in a vulnerable way. And I've always been, you know, I've always wanted to do that, and I've always been inclined to do that, but I was very squashed for that for most of my life. And it kinda took me to this place of, like, oh, who am I to share that? Or, like, maybe that wasn't that big of a deal if this thing happened to me or whatever it is. But the more that I confidently share my story, which is very intimately involved in my business and my art, the more I I see that it really is important. And that goes hand in hand with everything we're talking about with community, with, like, reaching out to each other, and realizing that we're all in this together. You know? And so I think for me, it's just given me this deep sense of drive and purpose that I am gonna stick with this, and I'm gonna share my story because that is important.

Margie Woods [00:58:08]:
And that's the first time in my life that I've confidently been able to just be like, I'm doing it. It's kinda like what you were saying, Amy. Like, I don't really care what anybody thinks about it anymore. Like, no. I don't give a Fig Newton as you said.

Kellee Wynne [00:58:22]:
That's gonna be our new one.

Margie Woods [00:58:23]:
Ever heard

Kellee Wynne [00:58:24]:
of me in this.

Margie Woods [00:58:25]:
Oh my god. Anyway,

Tania Ahmed, [00:58:28]:
that that that

Margie Woods [00:58:29]:
means says, but that's that's that's, like, a really big thing for me.

Kellee Wynne [00:58:33]:
Yes. And Tanya said our other word is faffing. Thank you to our British friends. Our two f words. Our two f words, Fig Newtons and faffing. Okay. Now we have our own little code words. I know y'all that's the other one.

Kellee Wynne [00:58:47]:
We were joking about that. The one I

Susan [00:58:48]:
called saying.

Kellee Wynne [00:58:51]:
And and you say they would never say that, but we do say it. I know y'all who are listening. That's what I wanted to say. Want your own little insider jokes too. Amy, who are you becoming?

Amy K Murray [00:59:05]:
So the first thing that popped into my head when you said that was I'm becoming, like, a guide and not just a teacher. Like, to be able to, like, dig in, like, help others really find themselves. I think so often, for me, I always thought teaching was this is what you do, steps a b c. Right? Probably from all those years of teaching kids. And then I've just really started to and, again, it circles back to that confidence level of, you know, everything. We're just able now to, I think, hold that space of who my creative soul is. Like, it's it's in here, I think, for everyone even if they say, oh, I, you know, I can't draw a stick figure. I'm not creative.

Amy K Murray [00:59:52]:
It's in there. And to be able to just let it out and throw paint on a journal page or scribble or paint beautiful florals or sketch or grab your, you know, your jelly plate. It's all part of the process, and I think that's where the becoming happens in the process of creating.

Kellee Wynne [01:00:15]:
So you're a guide, and I love that because that's definitely a resonate that resonates with me in the sense that I'm not here to be the leader or the the boss or the although I know I say boss, not bossy, but that's not because I'm the boss. But I'm not here for any of that. I'm here to guide them, my my my people, my community. I don't even use I don't think I ever use the word students. I always said, hey, artists, because I wanted them to identify with themselves as being artists. And it's like, here, I'm gonna I'm gonna guide you to the place you've wanted to be. And I love that feeling of being a guide rather than just a teacher or a leader. Right?

Tish Reed [01:01:02]:
Yeah. We love our we love our teachers, but the idea of teaching does sound a little prescriptive. And I think for for all of us, really, we want to allow that space for our students to learn to listen to their own creative voice and feel confident that it is already there within them.

Kellee Wynne [01:01:20]:
I agree completely. Yes. Tanya, who are you becoming?

Tania Ahmed, [01:01:30]:
Me. Becoming more me. And just learning to, you know, step into just really allowing myself to shine. It feels hard to say that, but it's it's it's definitely it's it's like, what everyone has been saying is about accepting myself. Because by accepting ourselves and truly stepping into our own light, we allow others to do the same. And that's been incredibly, like, powerful to witness in this group and also among my students as well. And just learning to let go of perfectionism and just embracing myself, flaws and all, that we are here to just do our best.

Kellee Wynne [01:02:37]:
And Yeah. More of you. That's beautiful. Susan, you're you're in the spotlight now.

Susan [01:02:44]:
Thank you.

Susan [01:02:45]:
I was gonna say the same as Tanya, me. I'm more Susan. I think one of the things that I have really struggled with over the years is imposter syndrome and feeling that, like, this isn't a a real business, and who am I to teach this? And, like, I know I did a fine art degree. I'm trained. But even so, it still feels so I still feel so disconnected from that kind of I'm not I think like you've all said, I'm not a teacher in that kind of academic way. I'm trying to encourage something else out of people. And I think one of the things that I'm really stepping into is not being this like, five different Susans. One is a mom, one owns a pottery cafe, one likes plants, one is a yoga teacher, and the other one is an art teacher.

Susan [01:03:32]:
There's not I I in I think a year ago, I was five little Susans running around everywhere, and the different ones spoke to another one. And, like, I was all over the place. Whereas I think I'm now just one great big Susan. I don't know if that's the best way to say it.

Kellee Wynne [01:03:47]:
I love it, but it's so true.

Susan [01:03:49]:
I'm one centred Susan. And it's everything is coming together. And it's not me chasing my tail. I'm not this little dog going in circles chasing its tail, which is what I felt like over the years. I'm trying to be that person. I'm trying to do this, and I'm trying to do that.

Susan [01:04:04]:
not really doing anything very well. And I think what I'm stepping into is I am the center, and I have all these different interests and parts of me because I'm a human, and humans have different interests and likes. And especially creatives, we tend to have the next new hobby and I'll you know, it's embroidery at the moment, and then it'll be this and that. And and it's like, do you know what? That's okay. Some days, I make clothes. Sometimes, I embroider. Sometimes, I go into the garden. But that's all me.

Susan [01:04:32]:
My approach is the same. I'm still the same person. Whether I'm in my pottery cafe, whether I'm teaching on Zoom, whether I'm speaking to you guys now, it's still me. So it's trying to stay in that center and listen to me and just be a bigger me

Susan [01:04:49]:
For the next few years.

Kellee Wynne [01:04:53]:
Whole is the word that comes up for me

Susan, [01:04:55]:
Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [01:04:55]:
Instead of so fragmented, which is something I absolutely relate to. In fact, I fragmented so much that I killed off parts of me. And that's really it's really sad when that happens, and I've even done that as a business owner. And that's me coming full circle now back to the beginning of I just want to bring all of who I am into this space Mhmm. Creating, you know, that wholeness again. You know? And I think that that's the whole goal as we really evolve in our business as ourselves, as women, gen xers, or elder millennials. Some of you are a little younger. It's coming into that wholeness again.

Kellee Wynne [01:05:41]:
So I feel like it's beautiful.

Margie Woods [01:05:44]:
I have all parts of ourselves to be acceptable. You know? And then that comes it's like I think that's the biggest piece. It's like we don't have to present anything other than what is right in front of us. You know what I mean? Like, do not pretend we don't have to put on a happy face if we're not happy. And it goes back to sharing our stories. It's like we're living from that place. We're also showing other people that they can do that, which provides so much relief, I think.

Kellee Wynne [01:06:13]:
I think we're changing the narrative.

Margie Woods [01:06:16]:
Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [01:06:16]:
It it's changing the narrative for women of a certain age group, changing the narrative for artists, changing the narrative for business owners, and all of the hype you hear out there. We're changing the narrative for all of that and creating a new path forward. That's the real goal, right, for ourselves, for the people who are around us. It doesn't have to be, you know, what it used to be. We've we're just I love it that we're redefining that. Okay. So I'm gonna give one more. I want you to be a little pragmatic with this question.

Kellee Wynne [01:06:56]:
It doesn't have to be altruistic. It doesn't have to be just like some, like, proper answer. What does success look like for you now? And you can even put numbers in it. You can put wild ambitions. I wanna hear your big audacious dreams, and it's all fine because it's all part of who you are. So I am asking you to be a little more vulnerable and just really say, what does success look like for you now more than just making people happy? Who I am I gonna have to call on Amy? Because she goes last most of the time, and so I'm gonna put a spotlight on.

Amy K Murray [01:07:31]:
It's okay. Like, mine is it's simple, but then it's not. Like so because I was, a homeschooling mom, and then I taught, And but my husband's always been the big provider to the family and whatnot. I am so determined to buy the lake house. Like, we love the water. We've always had boats. We and I want we want the lake house.

Amy K Murray [01:08:03]:
We want to retire to the lake house. We have, you know, both my my baby is graduating this year. My they're all boys. They're all off doing their things, and they are I I just I want that. I wanna leave a legacy in many different ways, but the you know, like, leaving a lake house. But in that lake house, you know, the in my vision, part of the dock is this beautiful flower painted art retreat place where I have the Oar Lake coming and doing art retreats, and, you know, that's there. And when I'm long gone, it's still there for my three boys, for their their spouses, their children, and it just goes because I don't it there's something for me about walking into an old it doesn't have to be an old home, but just a home full of personality. And I just wanna leave a personality.

Amy K Murray[01:09:02]:
And as much as I wanna write a book or be this, that, or this great artist, these are I know I can do this, and I wanna leave it.

Kellee Wynne [01:09:12]:
I love that.

Amy K Murray [01:09:14]:
That's simple, but I'm that's it.

Kellee Wynne [01:09:15]:
Try not to get all choked up because I I just really feel it so much. It's this thing that you wanna create a space for the people you love the most. Yeah. Like require some financial success, and I think that that's a beautiful thing to work towards.

Amy K Murray [01:09:31]:
Yeah. I mean, you can keep it keeps going. There's lots more, but that's the big Yeah. Big one. That's a simple big one.

Kellee Wynne [01:09:38]:
Alright. What does success look like to you, Tanya?

Tania Ahmed, [01:09:46]:
Allowing myself to really fully embody all those big audacious dreams I've had and letting my daughter have that role model that perhaps I needed when I was growing up. And I've I've been very lucky to be surrounded by some really amazing women in my life. But I I it's it's my my daughter is my biggest inspiration. I want to be able to give her the best the best of whatever this life has to offer. And it means, sending her to the best schools, giving her great vacations, spoiling my family, who's been through so much to sacrifice so much for us just being able to provide them experiences and things. Like, these things are, like, huge for me. Because in us as women, we're always taught to make ourselves small and not speak too loud and not shine too brightly. And I I do have monetary audacious dreams, but my biggest audacious dream is to really see where I can take this because I've I've been, like, Reese Witherspoon's, one of these talk shit that she did this always really resonated with me that ambition ambition is not a dirty word.

Kellee Wynne[01:11:43]:
Nope.

Tania Ahmed, [01:11:45]:
And I just it just that's what I want to embody, and I want to be able to provide, these amazing experiences for my daughter, for my family. I want to see if

Kellee Wynne [01:12:02]:
For yourself.

Tania Ahmed, [01:12:03]:
For myself Yes. For myself because I've been I've been called average all my life. And, I've finally figured out that, you know, I have more than a couple of brain cells to rub together.

Kellee Wynne [01:12:17]:
You are way more than average. Also, I think that's beautiful because your daughter deserves to see her mom succeed. Right? Not everything needs to be a sacrifice on your part because women grow up strong when they see their mothers taking charge of their own life and being strong for themselves, and I think that that's a beautiful legacy to live. But, also, most of us, the wealth, the monetary goals are a means to an end because we know with money, it's a tool to provide for the people that we love, to provide for those dreams, to create security. So I can totally see why there's still a monetary goal behind everything. And then and then that's fine. That's how the world works. We have not figured out how to do a moneyless system yet.

Kellee Wynne [01:13:09]:
So you know? And I imagine that that would be just such a joy too. Do you have a lot of families still in Pakistan?

Tania Ahmed, [01:13:17]:
Yes. My parents are still out there.

Kellee Wynne [01:13:19]:
Okay. So yeah. So it's a lot that you can keep giving by by fulfilling your big audacious dreams. It fulfills a whole lot of other things. I love that. Susan, what does success look like to you?

Susan [01:13:37]:
Really hard question. Again, I have monetary things, like turnovers that I would like to hit in in the business, which I think enable things to happen. I think, you know, from speaking with Tanya, again, it is about role modeling for my daughter, you know, and all that. But, really, I'd I'd like to leave some kind of legacy that has a big impact. One of my big drivers, one of my big core values is empowerment, especially for women. And it comes through in some of the things that I teach because, primarily, my audience is female. And what I'm doing for a lot of people is I'm looking creativity that they've not tapped into for many, many, many years, and they're feeling empowered and confident. So I would like to be able to scale this bigger. I would like to be on TV.

Susan [01:14:28]:
I would like there's things that I would love to do that are just like that's the way I can get to more people is I wanna be on TV. Done it once before or twice before, like, on the shopping channel.

Kellee Wynne [01:14:38]:
She is on TEDx, by the way. Google that. You can search her on YouTube. Yeah. What's the next

Susan [01:14:44]:
I wanna do more things. I wanna reach a bigger audience. I I want a big estate in the country where I can have a retreat center, where I can have people there run really impactful retreats that impact, powerful women to spread the word even further. So people that are making an impact to make a bigger impact. So I'm big on looking after planet and the green space around us, and I don't think we're doing a particularly great job at the moment. And I think that the whole sort of, like, nurturing is very feminine, and that's not always in leadership. So I would love to be able to make a bigger impact for women in leadership or have some kind of leadership position where I can really empower other women. I don't know. Big big dreams. I love it, though. There's too many. Like, this this is, yeah. I don't know. Too many.

Kellee Wynne [01:15:36]:
I think that it's cool too to put a name on being on TV or writing books or or being seen, but not so that you are seen, but so that your mission is seen. Yeah. But your mission is seen. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Because part of me wants

Susan [01:15:53]:
Because part of me wants to hide under a table, like I said before. Like, I wanna do I wanna I wanna be on TV, but also hide under a table all at the same time.

Kellee Wynne [01:16:01]:
Yeah. Right? We have but we have to push out of that comfort zone if we're gonna make the changes that we wanna make.

Susan [01:16:08]:
Yeah.

Kellee Wynne [01:16:08]:
Yeah. What does success look like to you, Tish?

Tish Reed [01:16:14]:
Oh, gosh. So much of what's been shared, I resonate with. But I I remember talking with my husband, like, back when we were in our twenties, and we wanted to have, like, this sort of farm that was sort of a retreat center where people could come and and just rest in that space. And I think that's evolved a little bit, in that I would love to be able to host workshops, where I can do this sort of teaching in person in some amazing locations that I don't have to take care of, but it's sort of a vacation for all of us. Like, I would just love to do that sort of thing. But, personally, I do I do love I have three kids, and so I love that they see me following the thing that I'm really passionate about and doing the work. They see me putting in the work to make it happen, not just, you know, clicking my fingers and things are happening. We all know it takes hours and hours of grinding away at these things.

Tish Reed [01:17:14]:
And and in my case, months and years of of contemplating before before I start to pull a lot of triggers, so I'm a little slow with this process. But, it's also rewarding. It's all a success in my opinion, and, I started to tear up just thinking about it. Like, if I because it's hard for me to allow myself to really, like, picture, you know, like, a financial success, because I have been a stay at home mom for so long, and, I'm always the one who sacrifices, you know, oh, I don't need clothes. Everybody else can get clothes. You know? Just just stuff like that. But, like, if I could really just, like, knock my husband's socks off and take some stress off of him financially, like, that would be that would be incredible. He's my best friend, and if I could just just spoil the snot out of him, like, that would be awesome.

Kellee Wynne [01:18:11]:
I I just I'm gonna try not to cry. Gosh. We are so emotional. This is so beautiful, but, like, I feel the same way when you know? And for some of you, I I mean, I commend you for for choosing a different path, but the only path I knew was to stay home. That was how I was kinda raised by my my previous community. And so I did make the choice to stay home, and I know that burden's been on his back this whole time. And so when if I can turn around and there have been years where I've, like, really alleviated that burden, and I've had years since then where it's not been as phenomenal, but the change that happens. You know? Because, you know, we talk so much in society about the the weight the emotional weight for women, but we don't really give enough credit to the fact that there are good men that step up and dedicate their whole lives to supporting their family.

Kellee Wynne [01:19:10]:
And, and I'm with you on that, Tish. Absolutely. And they've given us so much and the opportunity to to build our dreams. It's like, you know, if they're gonna support us so much, I love to support partners.

Tish Reed [01:19:24]:
He did say he would gladly retire the other day.

Kellee Wynne [01:19:27]:
Mine said that he would've done it years ago. So he's still waiting for him to be able to put in the papers and be done early. I get it. Margie, what does success look like for you?

Margie Woods [01:19:41]:
Oh, it's kind of an emotional one too. It, you know, it has all the components of the financial piece and the you know, I would love to buy a home here in Los Angeles, which is really hard thing to do. But so there's all that, of course. But I think the biggest thing for me that, oh my gosh, that is would delineate success for me is allowing myself to be big and to be the biggest version of myself because I have so much inside that I always have had, kind of what I was talking about earlier. But it was kind of like, don't be too big. You don't need to do that. You know, like, this is very squashing energy in my life that I then took into myself and did to myself. So anytime I would just get too big and put all of this out, it would be like I would just then come down and just tell myself.

Margie Woods [01:20:34]:
So I've been in this very push me, pull you thing, and I'm really ready to break out of that. I'm 57, and I'm, like, moving towards 60, and I'm, like, ready to just let myself be the biggest version of myself so that I can contribute to the world and give back and also give back to myself. You know? So that's I think that's what it is in a nutshell.

Kellee Wynne [01:20:58]:
No. I am trying not to cry through this entire time, you guys. Like I said, this has been the biggest gift for me. I am so grateful that you joined me in the remarkable league. Now we know why it's called the remarkable league because of of you of you. And, yeah, on that note, just check the show notes in my website to learn all about what each and every one of these amazing women are doing. And I have a feeling you're gonna be hearing so much more about them. We have some tricks up our sleeves for our community, and it's gonna be a beautiful year together.

Kellee Wynne [01:21:45]:
Thank you.

Susan [01:21:48]:
Thanks, Kelly.

Tania Ahmed, [01:21:49]:
Thank you. Thank you, Kelly.